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Old Mar 1, 2023 | 10:28 PM
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Hi all
dave from Western Australia here im new to the group but have been reading posts for a while
ive just bought a 2013 breakout basket case and am slowly piecing it back together everything I'd working fine except I can't get the fuel pump to work (not getting a power feed from ecm not even at first power up) the bike will run fine if I power up the pump ,it does have a code up B2117 ( fuelpump output shorted high ) that I can't trouble shoot

New pump
Fuses are good
Stands up
out of gear
Wireing from pump to ecm continuity is good
Run stop switch turns bike off (when bike is running on supplied power)
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no co2 sensors hooked up
Fuelpump has continuity across the 2 terminals when not plugged in
Only has main 50amp fuse and 2 15amp fuses on whole bike under seat no relays(that i can find anyway)
Any help greatly appreciated
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 05:15 AM
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https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....3093b8f2e!!1!3
 
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 07:10 AM
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Yea can see all the schematics but the feed comes from the ecm so I think it is either in the esm or a interlock I havnt thought of
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I don't enjoy, neither am I really good at electrical issues... but I have struggled through a couple... so this isn't coming from a electrical CanBus expert....

If I read this correctly, you have powered the pump itself, so we know the pump is good, correct...?

With that code, it would suggest the power is not getting from the ECM to the pump....

Have you measured the output at the ECM to fuel pump pin with a volt meter to confirm ECM outout...?

If you have output from the ECM, might try running a wire from the ECM pin directly to the pump, taking the bike's harness out of the equation... that would confirm a problem with the wiring along the way between the two...

Good luck and report back when you find the issue...
 
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Fuel pump is powered by BCM, not ECM.
 
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Originally Posted by hattitude
I don't enjoy, neither am I really good at electrical issues... but I have struggled through a couple... so this isn't coming from a electrical CanBus expert....

If I read this correctly, you have powered the pump itself, so we know the pump is good, correct...?

With that code, it would suggest the power is not getting from the ECM to the pump....

Have you measured the output at the ECM to fuel pump pin with a volt meter to confirm ECM outout...?

If you have output from the ECM, might try running a wire from the ECM pin directly to the pump, taking the bike's harness out of the equation... that would confirm a problem with the wiring along the way between the two...

Good luck and report back when you find the issue...
yea I've pined it out back to the bcm pin f4 i have a 5v pull up voltage just not a signal voltage
the pump is brand new yes
 
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Deadly dave
yea I've pined it out back to the bcm pin f4 i have a 5v pull up voltage just not a signal voltage
the pump is brand new yes

Well, you seem to be on top of it....

At this point I would have to get professional help.... So someone smarter than me will have to help you decipher the results of your testing and/or suggest the next course of action.....
 
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