Softail Models Standard, Custom, Night Train, Deuce, Springer, Heritage, Fatboy, Deluxe, Rocker and Cross Bones.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Vance and Hines short shots

Old Jan 28, 2024 | 09:28 PM
  #1  
gerald martin's Avatar
gerald martin
Thread Starter
|
Road Warrior
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,278
Likes: 465
From: anywhere
Default Vance and Hines short shots

gerald martin
gerald martin is online now
Road Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: anywhere
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 5
Received 444 Likes on 290 Posts
Default Vance and hines short shots on a carberated 2002 harley fatboyI have a set of Vance and Hines short shots on my carbureted 2002 harley fat boy. I have a small back fire and popping on deceleration. Is this normal? My intake is not leaking and my exhaust is not leaking. I have the stock carburetor on it.. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
I also have the super quiet baffles with a 5/8 inch hole drilled in the end of them. and my carburetor idle screw is 3 turns out from softly seated.
 
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2024 | 09:49 PM
  #2  
djl's Avatar
djl
HDF Community Team
Veteran: Army
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,773
Likes: 2,603
From: san antonio
Community Team
Default

Assume stock CV 40 carb? Any work done recently? How did you verify intake and exhaust not leaking? If absolutely certain intake and exhaust are not leaking, I would be working with the A/F screw; 1/1 turn can make a difference.
 
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2024 | 09:14 AM
  #3  
hattitude's Avatar
hattitude
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 14,113
Likes: 11,160
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Originally Posted by djl
Assume stock CV 40 carb? Any work done recently? How did you verify intake and exhaust not leaking? If absolutely certain intake and exhaust are not leaking, I would be working with the A/F screw; 1/1 turn can make a difference.




OP.... I had V&H longshots on my 2001 and was able to tune it so there was no decel pop or backfires. I have heard the shortshots can be a little more finicky to tune... but I have no experience with them.

On your OEM CV40 carb, there is an EPA mandated plug blocking the A/F mixture screw. If it is still in place on your carb, the bike has never been tuned before. When tuning a carbed HD with the CV40 carb, that plug is the firt thing removed.

There is a process for tuning the CV40 carb that always starts & ends with the mixture screw. The micxture screw setting determines if a bigger pilot jet is needed, and after any jet/needle change, you always go back to dialing in the mixture screw... There are instructions/guides on the CV Performance web site that can help if you are unfamiliar with the CV40 carb. My only warning, there are many that used to recommend drilling a small hole in the CV40 slide... Don't do it, better to properly tune it...

https://cv-performance.com/instructions-guides

FWIW... Every bike is different, but just for comparison: my 2001 88" Twin Cam with CV40 carb, SE high flow air filter, and V&H straight shot exhaust ran extremely well (I have recently changed exhaust, retuned, and it still runs very well). I used the OEM jets (45/190), CV Performance velocity needle, and the mixture screw at about 2 turns.

Good luck with your carb tuning...
 

Last edited by hattitude; Jan 29, 2024 at 09:16 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2024 | 01:22 PM
  #4  
mpaquette's Avatar
mpaquette
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 954
Likes: 56
From: Ypsilanti, MI
Default

Different bike and year but same exhaust, below in quotes is the last email I received from V&H when working on eliminating an occasional acceleration pop. I was able to eliminate the decel pop myself using the V&H FP3 and corresponding app. Not apples to apples but thought I would share my experience with the V&H Short Shots.

"Keep in mind that the ShortShots Staggered are a short drag style pipe. They will pop and backfire. That is what they are designed to do. We may never get to zero popping since we are fighting what the exhaust was designed to do."
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gerald martin
Exhaust System Topics
0
Jan 28, 2024 07:45 PM
gerald martin
Softail Models
2
Oct 21, 2023 06:02 PM
ironbobber2012
Sportster Models
4
Feb 20, 2014 08:02 PM
lstcause616
Want To Buy Motorcycles/Parts/Accessories
0
Apr 2, 2010 10:50 AM
HANDLER
Exhaust System Topics
1
Mar 28, 2007 07:14 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:54 PM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE