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Which screw is the one to look at in th "mid-engine mount"?
Jim G
There are 4 fasteners for the mid engine mount, 2 are orientated vertically, 2 are orientated horizontally. Look at the vertically orientated fasteners.
There are 4 fasteners for the mid engine mount, 2 are orientated vertically, 2 are orientated horizontally. Look at the vertically orientated fasteners.
I just tried to look! My service manual has not arrived yet (mailed from the dealer in a nearby city today), but I assume the "mid" engine mount on each side is somewhere along the frame rails along the bottom of the frame. Man, it is BUSY in that entire bottom area under the engine! I can't see much of anything, especially with the Breakout being so low that I cannot get my head under there - can only look from either side, and obviously it is easier from the righthand side versus left, since the bike is pretty tilted on the sidestand. Give me a clue here: where is that mid mount relative to the foot controls? On the righthand side, where is that mount relative to the brake pedal mount point?
There are 4 fasteners for the mid engine mount, 2 are orientated vertically, 2 are orientated horizontally. Look at the vertically orientated fasteners.
I just tried to look! My service manual has not arrived yet (mailed from the dealer in a nearby city today), but I assume the "mid" engine mount on each side is somewhere along the frame rails along the bottom of the frame. Man, it is BUSY in that entire bottom area under the engine! I can't see much of anything, especially with the Breakout being so low that I cannot get my head under there - can only look from either side, and obviously it is easier from the righthand side versus left, since the bike is pretty tilted on the sidestand. Give me a clue here: where is that mid mount relative to the foot controls? On the righthand side, where is that mount relative to the brake pedal mount point?
I just tried to look! My service manual has not arrived yet (mailed from the dealer in a nearby city today), but I assume the "mid" engine mount on each side is somewhere along the frame rails along the bottom of the frame. Man, it is BUSY in that entire bottom area under the engine! I can't see much of anything, especially with the Breakout being so low that I cannot get my head under there - can only look from either side, and obviously it is easier from the righthand side versus left, since the bike is pretty tilted on the sidestand. Give me a clue here: where is that mid mount relative to the foot controls? On the righthand side, where is that mount relative to the brake pedal mount point?
Jim G
The mid engine mount is on the left side of the engine. It secures the cylinder heads to frame backbone. The screws you are looking for thread into the cylinder heads.
The mid engine mount is on the left side of the engine. It secures the cylinder heads to frame backbone. The screws you are looking for thread into the cylinder heads.
The more i look into this, the more interesting it becomes. Those bolts at the mid mount have only 3 grade-indicating lines, so are Grade 5. BUT, the bolts that secure the engine to the frame at the FRONT (under the steering head) have the 6 lines of a grade 8. I guess HD sees them as being under more stress.
So, it sounds like I should buy Grade 5 bolts for the engine guard lower mount points.
THANK-YOU again for doing all this work to help me on this.
Jim G
Last edited by JimGnitecki; Feb 16, 2024 at 09:49 AM.
It turns out that those Grade 5 and Grade 8 socket head bolts are also impossible to buy anywhere in Canada (even at specialist fastener businesses), except at a Harley dealership. My nearest HD dealer has the top bolt in stock, but needed to order in the 2 bottom bolts, which will arrive Tuesday (the first day the shop opens for the week - closed Mondays). That's how unusual they apparently are. But, I'm glad the dealer CAN get them for me.
The aftermarket engine guard I ordered apaprently weighs 12.75 lb. It turns out that this is on the heavy end of the spectrum of weights I found for other aftermarket engine guards of same or similar shape. If I did the math correctly, the one I ordered is about 0.16 inch thick tubing. I have not been able to find anywhere the weight or tubing thickness of the genuine HD engine guard.
Another newbie question: Are the 2 flanges on the bottom ends of the engine guard supposed to go INside the frame members or OUTside the frame members? The HD instructions that someone kindly posted earlier in this thread do not address which side the flanges should go on.
I would THINK they should go on the outside, but from rough positioning of engine guard againbst the bike, it is not clear that the flanges could clear all the obstrucitons on the outside of the frame members.
Another newbie question: Are the 2 flanges on the bottom ends of the engine guard supposed to go INside the frame members or OUTside the frame members? The HD instructions that someone kindly posted earlier in this thread do not address which side the flanges should go on.
I would THINK they should go on the outside, but from rough positioning of engine guard againbst the bike, it is not clear that the flanges could clear all the obstrucitons on the outside of the frame members.
Another newbie question: Are the 2 flanges on the bottom ends of the engine guard supposed to go INside the frame members or OUTside the frame members? The HD instructions that someone kindly posted earlier in this thread do not address which side the flanges should go on.
I would THINK they should go on the outside, but from rough positioning of engine guard againbst the bike, it is not clear that the flanges could clear all the obstrucitons on the outside of the frame members.
