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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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i think i am going to add a biketronics smart equalizer for now to lower the flash rate, and then add a tail runner to make the TS running/brake lights.

as long as it does not hurt anything, i will just leave the leds in and let them flash fast until the smart equalizer shows up
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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hopefully. i may go do it right now. i installed the kury leds and they "hyperflash" which means I need to figure out the load equalizer situation. some say the kury one shuts down the flashers. maybe I should have just had the dealer do it. I do not want to start cutting wires apart.

post some pics when you getter done!


 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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hopefully. i may go do it right now. i installed the kury leds and they "hyperflash" which means I need to figure out the load equalizer situation. some say the kury one shuts down the flashers. maybe I should have just had the dealer do it. I do not want to start cutting wires apart.
I think I can explain, in layman's terms,why the LED's "hyperflash" as you put it, good description of what often happens and why you don't want to use the four ways with a normal equilizer like the Kury one.

The flasher circuit is built around the fact that a standard incandesant bulb is noting more than a high resistance short. The key being the high resistance part. A LED on the other hand is really just a diode, or one way valve if you will, that only allows electron flow in one directions and happens to light up whencurrent passes through it.
That's why if you look closely at the installation instructions for LED's you will always find referances to polarity in them. If they are put in backwards or reversed they block current flow in DC circuits and in higher power situations will sooner or later burn out. The more power, the fasterthey will go bye-bye on you, and remember an automotive lead acid type ofbattery can supply a LOT of amperage..
The stock incandesant bulb filimaent by contrast doesn't give a rat's rear end which way the electrons are going. It just gets hot and glows when power is put to it.
The reason that LED's flash so fast is because they offer very little resistance, virtually none by comparison to a bulb. So all the amperage that the circuit normally divides between the bulb and the flasher goes through theflasher itself making it cycle faster.
Putting an equilizer in the linemimics the bulbs resistance in the circuit so the flasher doesn't aee what looks like a short circuit, like aLED, but a "load", and it operates normally.
The reason you don't want to use standard resistor type equilizers with the four way flasher is not because it might damage the flasher. But the continiousoperation willoverheat and burn out the equilizer resistor. Without a really big heat sink they can't disapate the heat generated by all that power asfast as four seperate bulbs do. So while the flasher is on the heat gradually builds up instead of going away and eventually burns it out. If the resistor is mounted in a sensative area it may actually cause heat related damage to other parts of the bike that may be to near it. Like paint,wires, or plastics. In truely bad cases it may even start other bike partson fire.
The Biketronics unit doesn't use resistance to equilize the loads but electronic's to fool the flasher into "thinking" that there is a load on it. So its immune to the heat build up problem so the four ways can be usedsafely withit.

BTW the Biketronics unit is a simple plug and play setup. They supply it with plugs already attached that match the bikes wiring.

Have fun and ride safe.[sm=biker2.gif]
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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You are always extremely helpful Frank.

That for the input. I will order my smart equalizer today.

I can throw the tailrunner right in line with the smart equalizer right? then just tuck that stuff in under the seat somewhere?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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so the tri bar install went well.

no problems at all. no torx needed.

next project, detachable sissy bar hardware~!



[IMG]local://upfiles/39434/71AE67408CED413F92284A77F1195A52.jpg[/IMG]
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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You are always extremely helpful Frank.
That for the input. I will order my smart equalizer today.
I can throw the tailrunner right in line with the smart equalizer right? then just tuck that stuff in under the seat somewhere?
I believe so, but if their web site doesn't make it clear, just give them a call.
I have it on good authority that they are extreemly helpful over the phone and get you exactly what you need with a minmum of headaches.

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so the tri bar install went well.
no problems at all. no torx needed.
next project, detachable sissy bar hardware~!

[IMG]local://upfiles/39434/71AE67408CED413F92284A77F1195A52.jpg[/IMG]
Glad you didn't need to pull the fender apart like I did, for the rack adaptor. But if your going to be fooling around with the sissy bar, you ARE going to need that Torx bit.

Is it me or does the newlight just look like it "fits" and belongs on there?
Should have been on the right off the assembly line.
Good Luck and keep the pics coming. The rides looking better every day.
Frank
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Well done on the install!
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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the tail light is one of my favorite add-ons so far. it really does fit perfectly. I guess HD figures that if they can sell it and make some extra cash, may as well do it. I am sure there is someone out there who is not a fan of it.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I guess HD figures that if they can sell it and make some extra cash, may as well do it. I am sure there is someone out there who is not a fan of it.
Yea, why give something away if you can charge the customer for it.
As for anyone not liking it, who? And more impotantly why? Its a really GOOD looking cost effective (relatively speaking that is) replacement, especially compared to something like the Joker Machine version.
 
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