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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Hey everyone just a quick question i am sure this has already been asked and answered a thousand times. Where i work i can get a great deal on a set of Samson fishtails like $426.00 good brand new. My question is that i have read the quality issue is not very good and the vance and hines are better quality and sound. I want some feedback on what everyone else thinks. I can not get vh on a good deal just samson help me decide. If vh's are mush better and sound alot better then i will get those but if there is not to big of differance then i would probably get the samson becuase of the price thanks for the help.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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I've had my Samson True Duals for about 2 years, and I love them. Fit and finish is great. Chrome is top notch. Sound is different than V&H, but great in its own way. When there's 2 dozen bikes warming up at work, you can pick mine out compared to all the others, and not in a bad way, just a more old school type sound to it.

There are those who hate Samsons, and had bad ones back a few years, but I think they've got all their QC issues straightened out, from what I've read from all of us who have them now.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Tom here from http://harleygoodies.com/ Get a good listen to your bike. I have had both on my bike and they are 2 different animals. Fit and finish has been great on both.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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nothing wrong with samson finish + sound is great + look is killer (longtails)
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKnCHRME09Deluxe
nothing wrong with samson finish + sound is great + look is killer (longtails)
BLK that 21 is awsome with the longtails, Bad in BLKnCHRME kicks *** nice job on the ride
 
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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I told another guy this in a previous post. I have the V&H and there is no doubt that they are GREAT PIPES. But these are the things that I see that are different.

The Samson wrap on the left side cleaner IMO. The V&H set up a little higher it presses into the back of my knee when I back up sometime. Not a big deal but knowing it now may have changed my mind.

The V&H tips are changeable but the Samson are no so much.

You can go with longer pipe with Samson, V&H you stuck with one length.

Fit and Finish IMO are the same. Some speak negative towards Samson but I think that has been resolved.

Samson is louder and V&H is deeper...this is my opinion.

I do not think you will go wrong with either one of them but if you can get the better deal with the Samson save some coin for other mods then that's the way I would go.

good luck
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BigSeaDaddy
The V&H tips are changeable but the Samson are no so much.
This is a good thing for V&H in my opinion, because they have to have the ugliest fishtails I've seen. They're nice sounding pipes, but almost every other fishtail tip out there looks better than theirs.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ElSupremo
This is a good thing for V&H in my opinion, because they have to have the ugliest fishtails I've seen. They're nice sounding pipes, but almost every other fishtail tip out there looks better than theirs.
Ya I have thought about it and if I could do it all over again I would have went with the Samson. Back when I was looking I kept hearing how bad the finish was blah blah blah. I was overseas at the time and had no real way to lay my eyes on a set for myself or listen to a set.

Some one said that the Samson sound "different" but in a good way. I agree.
 
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The only issue I have had with their pipes is that they interfere with me being able to shift into first.

This would be easily remedied if I could get the shift arm adjustment moved. I just can't find the right sized torx head or whatever.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Personally, I just don't see what you all see in fishtails? Do they sound different (or better in your opinion)
then Big Radius or Big Shots, or any other pipes? Is it just the look you're drawn too? I consider this a legit
question so I'm not going to worry whether this ruffles anyone's feathers or not.
 

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