OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
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OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
I made a post about putting a 240 vs a 200 on the rear of my '05 nightrain. I've heard from different people that have opinions on how it has/should handle. Those opinions mainly have been from people that have ridden someone else's bike.
I would like to only hear from people who HAVE upgraded to a 240 on the back of their softail. I want to hear from them about....
a) if they like it
b)is the handling that detrimental since the upgrade
c) does it pull to the left like they say it does when you do a 300 tire.
and last but not least...
d)would you do it all over again or would you have gone to a 200?
Surely someone on this forum has actually done the upgrade AND has an opinion about it.
Please?
I hate to be a pain but I've got my swingarm, tire and fender here (or waiting on the arrival of such) and I don't want to turn my bike into a 30K bar hopper.
Thanks,
Mark
I would like to only hear from people who HAVE upgraded to a 240 on the back of their softail. I want to hear from them about....
a) if they like it
b)is the handling that detrimental since the upgrade
c) does it pull to the left like they say it does when you do a 300 tire.
and last but not least...
d)would you do it all over again or would you have gone to a 200?
Surely someone on this forum has actually done the upgrade AND has an opinion about it.
Please?
I hate to be a pain but I've got my swingarm, tire and fender here (or waiting on the arrival of such) and I don't want to turn my bike into a 30K bar hopper.
Thanks,
Mark
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
Sorry Mark, I have not done the upgrade. I will ask a freind who has a 240 to come onto the site and try to answer you. He's not into boards, but I will try.
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
well i felt bad that you had no responces yet so i want to put in my 2 cents.
the best i can tell you is my friend has 02 fatboy and upgraded to a 240 tire. the kit cost 8000 bucks for the swing arm and fender. not including rims tire and other stuff. he loves it and has never complained about handling. and it looks awesome!!!!
the best i can tell you is my friend has 02 fatboy and upgraded to a 240 tire. the kit cost 8000 bucks for the swing arm and fender. not including rims tire and other stuff. he loves it and has never complained about handling. and it looks awesome!!!!
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
Orangecrush,
In answer to your PM and for anyone else interested. I've got the RC Components 240 kit on my 04 Standard. Here are my impressions after 2500 miles.
I freakin' love it! Seems like a lot of tribal knowledge floating around out there. Granted, the bike will never corner like a sport bike - but what big twin will? The bike corners very acceptable. At first, it took a parking lot to turn it around (front tire doesn't track the same line as the 240), but now I don't notice it.
Crusin' is great. Some have reported a left turning tendency - I have none. Straight down the highway at 70 no hands. Either way you go (tranny offset or no tranny offset) you'll have to offset the primary. Mine went out 1". I can easily see Baldman's 1.75" offset with a 300. Didn't want to offset the tranny because that looks really wierd on a Twin Cam. Lowering the bike is must. Really sets of the look. I used lowering shocks.
On the negative side: the biggest issue is cost. Mine went $10K complete. If you plan on two up riding, make sure you get a fender specifically designed for two people. Many so called "strutless" fenders are inadequate for two riders.
What would I do different? Put a Progressive Air Ride system on it (will do it soon, but would have been much easier when the swingarm went on). Adjustability would be nice on a lowered bike especially when going with a passenger. I would have went with a 300. So many 300 hundreds running around now, makes the 240 look skinny.
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In answer to your PM and for anyone else interested. I've got the RC Components 240 kit on my 04 Standard. Here are my impressions after 2500 miles.
I freakin' love it! Seems like a lot of tribal knowledge floating around out there. Granted, the bike will never corner like a sport bike - but what big twin will? The bike corners very acceptable. At first, it took a parking lot to turn it around (front tire doesn't track the same line as the 240), but now I don't notice it.
Crusin' is great. Some have reported a left turning tendency - I have none. Straight down the highway at 70 no hands. Either way you go (tranny offset or no tranny offset) you'll have to offset the primary. Mine went out 1". I can easily see Baldman's 1.75" offset with a 300. Didn't want to offset the tranny because that looks really wierd on a Twin Cam. Lowering the bike is must. Really sets of the look. I used lowering shocks.
On the negative side: the biggest issue is cost. Mine went $10K complete. If you plan on two up riding, make sure you get a fender specifically designed for two people. Many so called "strutless" fenders are inadequate for two riders.
What would I do different? Put a Progressive Air Ride system on it (will do it soon, but would have been much easier when the swingarm went on). Adjustability would be nice on a lowered bike especially when going with a passenger. I would have went with a 300. So many 300 hundreds running around now, makes the 240 look skinny.
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
Mark,
Seriously, DO NOT consider putting the 240 on you bike... I do have a solution... I will take the fender, swingarm, etc. off your hands and this way you do not have to worry about this anymore!!
Seriously, DO NOT consider putting the 240 on you bike... I do have a solution... I will take the fender, swingarm, etc. off your hands and this way you do not have to worry about this anymore!!
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
There ya go! Then take that money and put towards a 300 
Take care,
Baldman
Take care,
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Orangecrush,
In answer to your PM and for anyone else interested. I've got the RC Components 240 kit on my 04 Standard. Here are my impressions after 2500 miles.
I freakin' love it! Seems like a lot of tribal knowledge floating around out there. Granted, the bike will never corner like a sport bike - but what big twin will? The bike corners very acceptable. At first, it took a parking lot to turn it around (front tire doesn't track the same line as the 240), but now I don't notice it.
Crusin' is great. Some have reported a left turning tendency - I have none. Straight down the highway at 70 no hands. Either way you go (tranny offset or no tranny offset) you'll have to offset the primary. Mine went out 1". I can easily see Baldman's 1.75" offset with a 300. Didn't want to offset the tranny because that looks really wierd on a Twin Cam. Lowering the bike is must. Really sets of the look. I used lowering shocks.
On the negative side: the biggest issue is cost. Mine went $10K complete. If you plan on two up riding, make sure you get a fender specifically designed for two people. Many so called "strutless" fenders are inadequate for two riders.
What would I do different? Put a Progressive Air Ride system on it (will do it soon, but would have been much easier when the swingarm went on). Adjustability would be nice on a lowered bike especially when going with a passenger. I would have went with a 300. So many 300 hundreds running around now, makes the 240 look skinny.
Orangecrush,
In answer to your PM and for anyone else interested. I've got the RC Components 240 kit on my 04 Standard. Here are my impressions after 2500 miles.
I freakin' love it! Seems like a lot of tribal knowledge floating around out there. Granted, the bike will never corner like a sport bike - but what big twin will? The bike corners very acceptable. At first, it took a parking lot to turn it around (front tire doesn't track the same line as the 240), but now I don't notice it.
Crusin' is great. Some have reported a left turning tendency - I have none. Straight down the highway at 70 no hands. Either way you go (tranny offset or no tranny offset) you'll have to offset the primary. Mine went out 1". I can easily see Baldman's 1.75" offset with a 300. Didn't want to offset the tranny because that looks really wierd on a Twin Cam. Lowering the bike is must. Really sets of the look. I used lowering shocks.
On the negative side: the biggest issue is cost. Mine went $10K complete. If you plan on two up riding, make sure you get a fender specifically designed for two people. Many so called "strutless" fenders are inadequate for two riders.
What would I do different? Put a Progressive Air Ride system on it (will do it soon, but would have been much easier when the swingarm went on). Adjustability would be nice on a lowered bike especially when going with a passenger. I would have went with a 300. So many 300 hundreds running around now, makes the 240 look skinny.
Now that's what I want to hear (not because you said what I like but because I wanted someone who has put a 240 on their bike.) Baldman has been extremely patient with me and my questions but I honestly don't think it's fair to compare a 240 to a 300 kit. I'm hoping it's much milder.
Cessna, other than the fact you said what I wanted to hear, I appreciate your answer. I simply wanted an honest answer from someone who has done this mod to their bike. I agree, it's not a sportbike, it doesn't handle like one and never will. I just don't want it to make me regret putting it on by doing things like pulling, can't ride, etc, etc... I've got friends with 300's on the back of their bikes and all they use it for is to cruise from bar to bar or out to "bike night". They would never entertain the thought of riding 8-9 hours from NC to FL. like I will next month. I've had the bike about a month and a half and have put almost 2500 miles on it... I don't want to stop riding now.
The fender I received is strutless and HEAVY, I can't believe how thick it is.... feels like it weighs 15 lbs... geesh.
Tell me about the progressive air ride. You obviously have your bike lowered, what happens when you carry a passenger... and how is that different than when it had the stock width tire and was lowered? I would assume that regardless whether it has a narrow or wide tire on it, if it scrubs with a narrow tire on it, it will scrub with a wide tire.
Anyway, I truly appreciate your thoughts and time to post. Thanks everyone.
Mark
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
Orangecrush,
The air ride system allows for immediate and "on-the-go" ride height and rebound adjustments. Currently, we have to painfully adjust our shocks to only achieve a rebound adjustment - ride height is another issue all together.
What happens with the extra wide swingarm is instead of traditional "bottoming out" when we exceed the capability of our shocks to cushion a bump, on wide tire conversions, the top rail of the swingarm sticks out so far that it actually strikes the bottom of the fender. This happens before the tire hits the inside top of the fender like normal tire width set-ups (will vary dependant on set-up and some say this is a good thing - preferable to tire rubbing the inside of the fender?)
Air ride gives you the means to make adjustments easy and as needed. Good luck - you'll love it.
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The air ride system allows for immediate and "on-the-go" ride height and rebound adjustments. Currently, we have to painfully adjust our shocks to only achieve a rebound adjustment - ride height is another issue all together.
What happens with the extra wide swingarm is instead of traditional "bottoming out" when we exceed the capability of our shocks to cushion a bump, on wide tire conversions, the top rail of the swingarm sticks out so far that it actually strikes the bottom of the fender. This happens before the tire hits the inside top of the fender like normal tire width set-ups (will vary dependant on set-up and some say this is a good thing - preferable to tire rubbing the inside of the fender?)
Air ride gives you the means to make adjustments easy and as needed. Good luck - you'll love it.
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RE: OKAY, I NEED A RESPONSE... (puhlease)
ORIGINAL: orangecrush
I made a post about putting a 240 vs a 200 on the rear of my '05 nightrain. I've heard from different people that have opinions on how it has/should handle. Those opinions mainly have been from people that have ridden someone else's bike.
I would like to only hear from people who HAVE upgraded to a 240 on the back of their softail. I want to hear from them about....
a) if they like it
b)is the handling that detrimental since the upgrade
c) does it pull to the left like they say it does when you do a 300 tire.
and last but not least...
d)would you do it all over again or would you have gone to a 200?
Surely someone on this forum has actually done the upgrade AND has an opinion about it.
Please?
I hate to be a pain but I've got my swingarm, tire and fender here (or waiting on the arrival of such) and I don't want to turn my bike into a 30K bar hopper.
Thanks,
Mark
I made a post about putting a 240 vs a 200 on the rear of my '05 nightrain. I've heard from different people that have opinions on how it has/should handle. Those opinions mainly have been from people that have ridden someone else's bike.
I would like to only hear from people who HAVE upgraded to a 240 on the back of their softail. I want to hear from them about....
a) if they like it
b)is the handling that detrimental since the upgrade
c) does it pull to the left like they say it does when you do a 300 tire.
and last but not least...
d)would you do it all over again or would you have gone to a 200?
Surely someone on this forum has actually done the upgrade AND has an opinion about it.
Please?
I hate to be a pain but I've got my swingarm, tire and fender here (or waiting on the arrival of such) and I don't want to turn my bike into a 30K bar hopper.
Thanks,
Mark