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I agree that it's too pricey. But you guys said early in this thread that someone should make a kit. Well, someone has.
Plus, though DIY is fine and can save some bucks, there's a time factor in doing that. Maybe you'd rather use the few hours another way. And not everyone has diamond plate laying around, or a garage for that matter.
So, there's a kit if you want it for 100 bucks. Don't shoot the messenger.
Plus, though DIY is fine and can save some bucks, there's a time factor in doing that. Maybe you'd rather use the few hours another way. And not everyone has diamond plate laying around, or a garage for that matter.
So, there's a kit if you want it for 100 bucks. Don't shoot the messenger.
Burrito likes to bash us about everything we sell for some reason. Maybe not everyone has his expert metal fabrication skills. For peopke who want to make a kit themselves, more power to them. Its great if you can make your own parts. But for those who want an easy bolt on kit, we offer ours. And unfortunately the components are expensive. If we can find a way to make them cheaper, believe me, we will do it and pass those savings on to the forum members.
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Please...post up a link to anywhere I slammed Dead Creek Cycles or what they sell...ever. Not including the comment about pricing in this thread of course. I would love to see where I bashed you guys as I'm sure anyone else reading this would too. I'll be waiting for the proof of what you claim.
...and I never claimed to be an expert metal fabricator. If you read my post, I used plexi.
Good luck selling your kit.
It's really not worth getting into it. I just think it's very unfair of you to say that anyone can make this kit on their own for a few bucks. That is simply not the case. If you want to use plexi, by all means do so. Our kit uses precision cut 1/8" T6061 aluminum plate, which is expensive to use and machine. Then, we have to machine spacers and powdercoat both the spacers and plates. It is a lot more involved than you make it seem. I'm just a local guy with a business that's trying to make some products that people can use on their bikes. It's hard enough to try to stay in business in this economy and make our parts in the USA, while so many other parts are made overseas for so much cheaper. Our stuff may be more expensive than some would like, but just know that much of the expense is going to local machine shops and hopefully helping to keep them in business.
So if you think the price is too high and don't want to buy the kit, that's fine but its not fair to make it sound like other people are stupid for buying a bolt on kit rather than making one themselves.
We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
I don't mean any disrespect to you. It's just tough enough to market a product without people making it sound like something you put a lot of time and money into developing is only worth a few bucks.
So if you think the price is too high and don't want to buy the kit, that's fine but its not fair to make it sound like other people are stupid for buying a bolt on kit rather than making one themselves.
We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
I don't mean any disrespect to you. It's just tough enough to market a product without people making it sound like something you put a lot of time and money into developing is only worth a few bucks.
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We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
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You guys are being a little harsh on, Dead Creek, aren't you?
I agree, the kit is too expensive. But no need to be sarcastic with the cat. He's offering a product for sale. Buy it, or not.
Honestly, as much as we love DIY and wrenching, if you search this thread you'll see one guy destroyed his belt going 60 mph creating his own kit. And as others point out, you are indeed spending 40 bucks on the parts already, unless you have them laying around.
Then there's the time to go to the hardware store, measure, paint some hardware black if you want etc. And as Dead Creek points out, correctly, it still won't be as clean as their kit.
I did it myself. Pleased with it. But if the Dead Creek kit were like 60 bucks, even 70 (because it's a forum sponsor with a 5 buck discount) I would have bought that and been just as happy.
Whatever I lost paying for the kit, I'd make up in time I could spend doing other things besides going to the hardware store. That's a half hour more riding. haha.
Anyway. I didn't buy the kit. You dun have to either. But cut the guy some slack. Damn.
I agree, the kit is too expensive. But no need to be sarcastic with the cat. He's offering a product for sale. Buy it, or not.
Honestly, as much as we love DIY and wrenching, if you search this thread you'll see one guy destroyed his belt going 60 mph creating his own kit. And as others point out, you are indeed spending 40 bucks on the parts already, unless you have them laying around.
Then there's the time to go to the hardware store, measure, paint some hardware black if you want etc. And as Dead Creek points out, correctly, it still won't be as clean as their kit.
I did it myself. Pleased with it. But if the Dead Creek kit were like 60 bucks, even 70 (because it's a forum sponsor with a 5 buck discount) I would have bought that and been just as happy.
Whatever I lost paying for the kit, I'd make up in time I could spend doing other things besides going to the hardware store. That's a half hour more riding. haha.
Anyway. I didn't buy the kit. You dun have to either. But cut the guy some slack. Damn.
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You made up crap about me and now you're saying "it's not worth getting into"? Uncool man...very uncool.
I stand by my statement, I have never said one bad thing about your products or your company. I still say PROVE that i did.
The only interaction I've had with you (which was no big deal to me and still isn't) was that you ignored my group purchase request twice about a product you sell. So i bought it direct from the actual manufacturer (softailloweringkit.com) and have posted on this board my positive experience with that manufacturer.
My comment was based on the PRICE....not who's selling it. If another board vendor was selling it, my comment would have been EXACTLY the same.
I say again...good luck to you selling it.
I stand by my statement, I have never said one bad thing about your products or your company. I still say PROVE that i did.
The only interaction I've had with you (which was no big deal to me and still isn't) was that you ignored my group purchase request twice about a product you sell. So i bought it direct from the actual manufacturer (softailloweringkit.com) and have posted on this board my positive experience with that manufacturer.
My comment was based on the PRICE....not who's selling it. If another board vendor was selling it, my comment would have been EXACTLY the same.
I say again...good luck to you selling it.
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You guys are being a little harsh on, Dead Creek, aren't you?
I agree, the kit is too expensive. But no need to be sarcastic with the cat. He's offering a product for sale. Buy it, or not.
Honestly, as much as we love DIY and wrenching, if you search this thread you'll see one guy destroyed his belt going 60 mph creating his own kit. And as others point out, you are indeed spending 40 bucks on the parts already, unless you have them laying around.
Then there's the time to go to the hardware store, measure, paint some hardware black if you want etc. And as Dead Creek points out, correctly, it still won't be as clean as their kit.
I did it myself. Pleased with it. But if the Dead Creek kit were like 60 bucks, even 70 (because it's a forum sponsor with a 5 buck discount) I would have bought that and been just as happy.
Whatever I lost paying for the kit, I'd make up in time I could spend doing other things besides going to the hardware store. That's a half hour more riding. haha.
Anyway. I didn't buy the kit. You dun have to either. But cut the guy some slack. Damn.
I agree, the kit is too expensive. But no need to be sarcastic with the cat. He's offering a product for sale. Buy it, or not.
Honestly, as much as we love DIY and wrenching, if you search this thread you'll see one guy destroyed his belt going 60 mph creating his own kit. And as others point out, you are indeed spending 40 bucks on the parts already, unless you have them laying around.
Then there's the time to go to the hardware store, measure, paint some hardware black if you want etc. And as Dead Creek points out, correctly, it still won't be as clean as their kit.
I did it myself. Pleased with it. But if the Dead Creek kit were like 60 bucks, even 70 (because it's a forum sponsor with a 5 buck discount) I would have bought that and been just as happy.
Whatever I lost paying for the kit, I'd make up in time I could spend doing other things besides going to the hardware store. That's a half hour more riding. haha.
Anyway. I didn't buy the kit. You dun have to either. But cut the guy some slack. Damn.
My parts (stainless bolts/washers/standoffs/nuts) and plexi did not even come close to $40.00. If I remember correctly, I was into it for around $25.00...can't be sure since it's been years since I made it. Not to mention, I enjoyed the hell out of making it myself. LOL...I am FAR from an "expert metal fabricator".
The issue with someones belt being destroyed was likely due to the fact they didn't use all 3 mounting points.
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It's really not worth getting into it. I just think it's very unfair of you to say that anyone can make this kit on their own for a few bucks. That is simply not the case. If you want to use plexi, by all means do so. Our kit uses precision cut 1/8" T6061 aluminum plate, which is expensive to use and machine. Then, we have to machine spacers and powdercoat both the spacers and plates. It is a lot more involved than you make it seem. I'm just a local guy with a business that's trying to make some products that people can use on their bikes. It's hard enough to try to stay in business in this economy and make our parts in the USA, while so many other parts are made overseas for so much cheaper. Our stuff may be more expensive than some would like, but just know that much of the expense is going to local machine shops and hopefully helping to keep them in business.
So if you think the price is too high and don't want to buy the kit, that's fine but its not fair to make it sound like other people are stupid for buying a bolt on kit rather than making one themselves.
We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
I don't mean any disrespect to you. It's just tough enough to market a product without people making it sound like something you put a lot of time and money into developing is only worth a few bucks.
So if you think the price is too high and don't want to buy the kit, that's fine but its not fair to make it sound like other people are stupid for buying a bolt on kit rather than making one themselves.
We would absolutely encourage anyone to try to make parts for their own bike. In fact, that's how we got started in this business ourselves. We're just trying to be a family run business that can offer customers some cool parts for their bikes and maybe get somewhere in this industry.
I don't mean any disrespect to you. It's just tough enough to market a product without people making it sound like something you put a lot of time and money into developing is only worth a few bucks.
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You're one of my favorite posters, Soft02, but maybe ask the guy if he'll sell you a few of the templates? (As opposed to the whole kit).
He did, after all, take the time to fabricate the templates. Seems fair to me. But what do I know. I missed my ride today, so I may be loopy.
He did, after all, take the time to fabricate the templates. Seems fair to me. But what do I know. I missed my ride today, so I may be loopy.