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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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DCC: I give you a lot of credit for posting the specs, that was very generous of you.

Regarding your other points. As a business owner myself, I follow the same principals you do. I support local business and have no problems paying a little more in order to buy from someone I know and trust in my community. I'm a handshake kind of guy, as I suspect you are as well. That's the way it should be.

As far as your kit... Here's one thing I thought about that hasn't been addressed. As a vendor/small business, you're held to a higher standard than a do-it-yourselfer. The quality or your product should not only be better than something I could make in my garage, it has to be. I'm paying you for it! For example; If I was to make something like this for my bike, I'd do what Burrito did. Cheap and easy and if it broke I wouldn't care, I'd just make another one. Now if I were to sell it, that's different. I'd use better materials. I'd have to. What if DCC threw together a cheap *** kit and sold it dirt cheap. What would happen when the first one (inevitably) broke? You'd get trashed here for selling a **** product. Furthermore, a business has expenses. It costs you money to be a sponsor here and advertise elsewhere. You have to pay for insurance, employees. Unfortunately, that cost has to be passed on to the consumer or else you'll go out of business.

Let me be the first to say I can care less that you're asking $100. You'll either sell the kit or you won't. Either way, good luck to you.
 

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Thanks WARG, I was just pondering the idea of how to mount and have no scratches.

Thanks, DyeGlide
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Branner
DCC: I give you a lot of credit for posting the specs, that was very generous of you.

Regarding your other points. As a business owner myself, I follow the same principals you do. I support local business and have no problems paying a little more in order to buy from someone I know and trust in my community. I'm a handshake kind of guy, as I suspect you are as well. That's the way it should be.

As far as your kit... Here's one thing I thought about that hasn't been addressed. As a vendor/small business, you're held to a higher standard than a do-it-yourselfer. The quality or your product should not only be better than something I could make in my garage, it has to be. I'm paying you for it! For example; If I was to make something like this for my bike, I'd do what Burrito did. Cheap and easy and if it broke I wouldn't care, I'd just make another one. Now if I were to sell it, that's different. I'd use better materials. I'd have to. What if DCC threw together a cheap *** kit and sold it dirt cheap. What would happen when the first one (inevitably) broke? You'd get trashed here for selling a **** product. Furthermore, a business has expenses. It costs you money to be a sponsor here and advertise elsewhere. You have to pay for insurance, employees. Unfortunately, that cost has to be passed on to the consumer or else you'll go out of business.

Let me be the first to say I can care less that you're asking $100. You'll either sell the kit or you won't. Either way, good luck to you.

Thank you, sir for your support. Much appreciated. You are exactly right. There is no way we could sell a substandard product. If we did, we wouldn't be in business very long. And the parts and processes used to make this kit are expensive. Unfortunately that's the cost of being able to offer a quality kit.

Thanks and good luck to you as well
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by klf33
..... they retracted to "you made an unfair comment".
I guess that's (and "no hard feelings") is as close to an apology I'll get from them for making up lies about me.

I'll stand by my original statement..."You can pick up the parts to do this yourself for a few bucks". It is pure truth and that's probably why DCC got riled up by it. That was not my intention.

All of my painted spacers look as good as the day I installed it...it's all protected behind the bag anyway. Who cares what material is used for the backing plate, it's hidden inside the bag! Aluminum, plexi or steel...it all works and you don't hear of failures as long as you use all 3 mounting points. I chose plexi for 2 reasons... 1.) Less unsprung weight. 2.) Ease of cutting/drilling

I actually wish DCC success, it's a tough world right now to run a business and I respect those who try despite our "government" punishing them for the crime of trying to make money.

I'm done with this lame drama. (unless of course I get lambasted again)

Peace brothers...
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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I have a suggestion for Dead Creek:

Sell the mounting plate separately.

Sell the entire kit for those who want it.

And ya, sounds like you are inclined to examine the pricing, which I think could make your product a hit.

Back to the original intention of this thread. I rode with my DIY for the first time today. It is very solid. I used fender washers, both inside and outside the leather of the bag. For my mounting plate, INSIDE THE BAG, I used very stiff and strong mounting canvas from an art store. It is very lightweight, rigid, and strong. And black. I know people will be skeptical of this, but it freggin works, especially with fender washers clamping it in place both from outside and inside the bag. Aluminum that was rigid enough seemed too heavy. Plastic is a good idea, but that was also a little heavy, IMHO, if you want it rigid.

I think the mishap with the snapped drive belt for that one cat here was because there was just too much weight on the mounting points. Didn't help that he used only two, of course. Best to use three.

As for drilling into the bag for the mount. If you have a leatherworks bag, which many of us do, the top right mounting point, and bottom left mounting points, line up nicely with the stock slits for the leather straps. It's that last mounting point on top left that you have to go down about an inch and a half or so from the stock slit.

I have not painted my hardware as of yet, but I think I will sometime during the week. I am just enjoying the mount for now, and monitoring it that it's strong, and you can hardly see the hardware anyway.

Also, if you originally had your swingarm bag mounted with leather straps our plastic ties, you want to check to make sure your arm has no damage before doing this mod. Because now your arm is gonna be visible from the top. I was very lucky in that I used cloth bicycle tape around my swingarm when I used the plastic tie method. There was no damage to my arm because of that. But I did have to get the adhesive residue off the arm, which was a PITA.

And finally. Thanks to the OP for sharing the nifty DIY.
 

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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I oriented mine all the way back, just to give more clearance on the footpeg for my gal. And I kinda like that look anyway. I'll probably get an axle cap later, but the bag is fine without it, honestly.

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And one really cool thing I like about this mod is how it makes the bag sit in a line with your footpeg. Very clean.

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYING_BURRITO_BROTHER
I guess that's (and "no hard feelings") is as close to an apology I'll get from them for making up lies about me.

LOLOLOLOLOL he we go again

... until DCC has another product that can (and will) help someone out with a project that BURRITO can bash for either not getting a discount or in his humble opinion, costs more than HE thinks it should.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Branner
As far as your kit... Here's one thing I thought about that hasn't been addressed. As a vendor/small business, you're held to a higher standard than a do-it-yourselfer. The quality or your product should not only be better than something I could make in my garage, it has to be. I'm paying you for it! For example; If I was to make something like this for my bike, I'd do what Burrito did. Cheap and easy and if it broke I wouldn't care, I'd just make another one. Now if I were to sell it, that's different. I'd use better materials. I'd have to. What if DCC threw together a cheap *** kit and sold it dirt cheap. What would happen when the first one (inevitably) broke? You'd get trashed here for selling a **** product. Furthermore, a business has expenses. It costs you money to be a sponsor here and advertise elsewhere. You have to pay for insurance, employees. Unfortunately, that cost has to be passed on to the consumer or else you'll go out of business.

Let me be the first to say I can care less that you're asking $100. You'll either sell the kit or you won't. Either way, good luck to you.

Thank you honestly for proving that there are logical, thoughtful and respectful people on this forum!

 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GinsengSullivan
LOLOLOLOLOL he we go again

... until DCC has another product that can (and will) help someone out with a project that BURRITO can bash for either not getting a discount or in his humble opinion, costs more than HE thinks it should.
What a troll...

Lets put our money where our mouth is...

I'll gladly donate $100.00 to a charitable organization (with proof) if ANYONE can show anywhere on this board where I bashed Dead Creek Cycles.

I did ask for a group purchase discount in the past...yes. What an @sshole I must be for trying to save a bunch of people some $$$ (including myself) and help out a board vendor with increased sales.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Burrito,

Seriously man, it's just not worth all the drama. Like I said in a prior post, I probably overreacted because of all the issues and aggravation I've been dealing with from the hurricane and all the associated issues. And I just felt that I needed to defend our product because of all the effort that we have out into it and all the money invested in it.

Sorry for any misunderstandings and hopefully we can all just move on.
 
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