Samson True Duals - Need Input
Road Master
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Bullshit. I can tear my boards off before even getting close to my tips. They dont get lower as they get longer (The only way your statement would make sense)
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My last bike was a rocket so when i first jumped on my HD i had to take it easy/learn on the corners. Two totally different beast.
Thats why i asked for a pic of his bike.....lets see
Last edited by BLKnCHRME09Deluxe; Feb 1, 2010 at 07:34 PM.
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I am speaking from personal experience here. Do you ride twisty roads? It may have to do with what kind of a suspension setup you have, but I don't post something like that without first hand knowledge. I appreciate your comment, but in my case it is not BS. If you are only going around corners you'll be fine, however with longer pipes you can scrape with something as simple as going out of a deep driveway. Keep in mind my bike has air ride and if I forget to air it up before a driveway it is really going to scrape. As far as the twisty roads are concerned, think about an off camber 90* turn going uphill and tell me you can make it without scraping. My experience is that I cannot, granted that I like to ride in a rather spirited fashion. I'll post a pic of my long shots that have been scraped to hell too, and they are not nearly as long as 36" pipes.
Last edited by DR. V-TWIN; Feb 1, 2010 at 08:36 PM.
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Ok, here is a pic. You are right that a floorboard will scrape first, but the the pipes will still scrape if you lean far enough. Anyway, here is a pic of some long shots I had on my bike. they didn't scrape until I hit the twisties. These are about the same length of the 26" fishtails. The other thing I forgot to say is that Samson fishtails st really low compared to say Vance and Hines true duals. 
Road Master
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I can post a pic of my bike resting on the primary with the pipes still not dragging if i need too... long pipes do not affect lean angle. They can scrape with extreme elevation changes but this can easily be handles with a little forethought to angle of approach.
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I've posted pics of me racing street, dirt and motard. I'm pretty sure I know how to make a bike turn
I can post a pic of my bike resting on the primary with the pipes still not dragging if i need too... long pipes do not affect lean angle. They can scrape with extreme elevation changes but this can easily be handles with a little forethought to angle of approach.
I can post a pic of my bike resting on the primary with the pipes still not dragging if i need too... long pipes do not affect lean angle. They can scrape with extreme elevation changes but this can easily be handles with a little forethought to angle of approach.
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Apology from me as well. I swore I would not hi-jack threads and here I am doing it....again. LOL.
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Ok, here is a pic. You are right that a floorboard will scrape first, but the the pipes will still scrape if you lean far enough. Anyway, here is a pic of some long shots I had on my bike. they didn't scrape until I hit the twisties. These are about the same length of the 26" fishtails. The other thing I forgot to say is that Samson fishtails st really low compared to say Vance and Hines true duals.
....That scrub on that pipe looks like a curb scrub to me. Seeing as the mount is on the inside same as the scrub....Don't take this question in the wrong way but im just asken how a scrub got in that position. Just asken....
Last edited by BLKnCHRME09Deluxe; Feb 1, 2010 at 11:03 PM.
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Yea im thinken the same...I've hit my boards so damm hard i thought my bike was a history. I'm suprised there still connected. And my pipes don't have a scratch...
My last bike was a rocket so when i first jumped on my HD i had to take it easy/learn on the corners. Two totally different beast.
Thats why i asked for a pic of his bike.....lets see
My last bike was a rocket so when i first jumped on my HD i had to take it easy/learn on the corners. Two totally different beast.
Thats why i asked for a pic of his bike.....lets see