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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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Softails don't come this way stock because dual disc brakes are UGLY! I had a FatBob, and always thought that was the worst aesthetic feature of the bike. Wheels are meant to be seen, not hidden away behind a bunch of disc brakes.

Now that I've got that out of the way. Do as the others have suggested. I don't know about swapping out parts for V-Rod or crotchrocket ones. I'm not satisfied with how well the swap would go. If you are very concerned, go with a guarantee and do the upgrade with Performance Machine.
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My Stock front (FXST) was so weak it won't stop the bike at 30M/H alone, it will slow it down kinda..
I had the Fab Kevin adapter (He is a trusted source for lots of VTwin mfg), and the Jap front caliber works a lot better, mind you, there is a possibility that my original had a problem.

Right now I get maybe 30% front and 70% rear stopping power .. which is WAY better than before when it was all rear, actually if I squeeze the front hard enough I get even more, but I hate to test my 21" front like that.

I was thinking about the 6 Pistons front by PM, but it was priced out of my range last year.. maybe this winter... I heard from those who installed it that the difference was not that much .
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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The 04 SE Deuce had it. Awhile back I checked on the parts. Will need right directional rotor if stock, right caliper and the new slider with the caliper lugs. Since its not marked SE I guess Harley will sell it. They would not sell me a timer cover until I gave them my old one. Of course the slider will not work on yours. The new three lines with a splitter. Also the 3/4 lever master cylinder. Been told the cartridge that goes in it are the save as the 5/8 on the outside. Never seen your bike with duels. Did it come in an SE from Harley? I know my last bike had duel rotors and I liked they way they felt. That is one thing I missed till I got use to my bike. Seem to have more brake in rear then front. However both will slide the tires and now that I am use to it its fine. I run the Harley soft metallic pads. If you are running the aftermarket harder pads that last longer they need to be duels.
Lets face it DocJ, Motorcycle are like women (or men to are lady bikers, or the other way or the other way--trying to be polite again) some of us like fat big tires and little brakes, some of us like tall skinny tires with big brakes. Classic3 likes big tires and big brakes
 

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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I switched to a Hawg Halter six piston front caliper on my Night Train, works fantastic.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Fact: Dual calipers stop straight and reduce stopping distance, that is an indisputable fact. As far as the subject of looks goes, either you want a motorcycle for performance or you can pose in front of it because it you think it as an extension of yourself (one reason among many). That is your choice and I do not care which is yours. Twin calipers on a Softail is easy and cheap if you know what parts to buy.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2019 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by klf33
Doc,
My Stock front (FXST) was so weak it won't stop the bike at 30M/H alone, it will slow it down kinda..
I had the Fab Kevin adapter (He is a trusted source for lots of VTwin mfg), and the Jap front caliber works a lot better, mind you, there is a possibility that my original had a problem.

Right now I get maybe 30% front and 70% rear stopping power .. which is WAY better than before when it was all rear, actually if I squeeze the front hard enough I get even more, but I hate to test my 21" front like that.

I was thinking about the 6 Pistons front by PM, but it was priced out of my range last year.. maybe this winter... I heard from those who installed it that the difference was not that much .
I got rid of the 21 and put my dads 16 on the front with the stock set up and I couldn’t believe the difference I had my rotor glowing red/orange trying to slow it down from 75 that setup should not pass dot with the 21
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley
Fact: Dual calipers stop straight and reduce stopping distance, that is an indisputable fact. As far as the subject of looks goes, either you want a motorcycle for performance or you can pose in front of it because it you think it as an extension of yourself (one reason among many). That is your choice and I do not care which is yours. Twin calipers on a Softail is easy and cheap if you know what parts to buy.
Probably not gonna see this but what parts would you buy to make it cheap and easy?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Latchik: Which bike do you want to put it on?


For my 2012 Blackline with ABS I needed:





- brembo calipers
-11.8" discs
- touring fork sliders plus fork rebuild kit
- fender mounting adapter
- while you are at it, get progressive front springs (not getting these is the WORST money saved)
- master cylinder assembly from a touring
- brake lines (custom, to handle touring master cylinder but softail ABS unit)
- banjo bolts and washers

can provide parts numbers if you like, let me know.

this is not really cheap, BUT: fork sliders, calipers, discs and master cylinder you can find as newish take-off parts on ebay quite regularly at sensational prices.

Best regards, niv




 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 12:55 PM
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Currently have a 14 Fatboy Lo that's getting Batwing Fairing, lower fairings, hard bags and chopped pack. Really like the look and performance of the newer touring wheels (Enforcers). Researched wheel and brake fitment but noticed forks were different length in between clamps and lowers. Wasnt sure if sliders were interchangeable since they are roughly 2" longer than the touring bike (measuring my 10 SG).

And looking at another 12-15 Softail (Deluxe, maybe) just because I need another. I never get to ride the Fatboy because SIL rides it.

If you've got numbers I would gladly take them. I'm sure there are others who'd like to change also.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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Ok, on a '14 FBL, the setup should be identical in terms of most parts. However, it is not a wide glide fork, so the fork sliders I used will not fit you.


Here is what I used, many have variations, depending e.g. on color.

- brembo calipers: any 2008 upwards touring caliper should work (also VROD), they have various parts numbers, depending on the year.
- 11.8" discs 44947-08A (one type, there are many 11.8" rotors obviously)
- fork sliders off a touring 00-13, RHS 46502-09 G5 E31-00 R G5B3-10-R, LHS 46495-09 G5 E31-00 L G5B3-10-L (these were chrome, had them powder coated)
- 41mm for rebuild kit drag specialties DS0403-0022
- fender mounting adapter 59013-02A (also chrome I believe, can get an aftermarket one from drag specialties for half, I believe)
- progressive fork springs 11-1131
- master cylinder assembly 44985-10D (all black)
- banjo bolts and washers (within these I believe there is even a mistake in harley´s parts numbers. They confuse two sizes of gaskets or so. luckily I needed both, so no issue at the end)

4x mounting bolt calipers 44160-00
2x banjo bolt caliper 41783-08
2x banjo bolt brake line 41750-06B
2x bleeder screw caps 42853-06
10x gasket 41751-06A
10x gasket 41731-01
banjo screw HCU in 5001
banjo screw HCU out 5002

- brake lines: these I ordered from a german shop, the specs would roughly be as follows:

at the master cylinder the fitting is of 10mm size (touring) with a slight angle (called type 002 at this german shop)
into the ABS/HCU unit the fitting is 11.2mm, no angle (type 100)
I indicated a total length of 105cm for this piece, but it is heavily dependent on your handle bars.

out of the ABS/HCU unit the fitting is 10mm, no angle (type 100), going into a splitte for the dual discs. length 50cm.
out of the splitter there are two brake lines, ending in 10mm fittings for the calipers with a 90° angle (type 019). length I indicated was 58cm but that is WAY TOO LONG.


hope this helps, best niv
 
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Old Aug 30, 2019 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DocJ
Softails don't come this way stock because dual disc brakes are UGLY! I had a FatBob, and always thought that was the worst aesthetic feature of the bike. Wheels are meant to be seen, not hidden away behind a bunch of disc brakes.
Just goes to show, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, I think dual disc brakes are high tech, and they sure as h3ll work better than single discs. I have a Heritage, and the brakes are ****, especially in contrast to riding it's garage-mate, the S1000RR.

The Solution? Trade the Heritage for a Road King, which I will doing in the next 6 months or thereabouts.
 
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