might be buying a 91 softail springer
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I honestly believed that. Exactly like you. I had a DNA on my Shovel and was happy enough with it. To be totally honest, it worked fine. Thats why I put the DNA on my Low Rider as pictured. Again, it worked fine. Also, (as mentioned) you can get a Paughco for allot less than the $2,100 units for the Dyna. Around a thousand bucks for a Shovel, Pan or Softail. You can believe me or not, but there is absolutely ZERO comparison between the two. Is the Paughco worth the extra money? Only the purchaser can decide, but I stand by my statement....the DNA is a pile of garbage when compared to the Paughco. The DNA springs, is shiny and looks fine. But in comparison to ride quality, chrome quality, weld quality, weight, girth, sturdiness and overall appearance, the DNA is completely substandard to the Paughco. I ran both on the exact same bike. Dixie Dreg is completely correct. At least in this case, you get what you pay for.
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well, from everything i've been reading there are pros and cons to having a carb... which i'm fine with... will just have to get used to letting her 'warm up' i suppose...lol
plus, there seems to be some great mods for carbs... so that sort of thing is always nice
i think i'm gonna buy it....i got plans for this thing, and you guys' bikes are great inspiration!
i had fun working on my 'bob' and no doubt i'll have just as much fun with the springer
plus, there seems to be some great mods for carbs... so that sort of thing is always nice
i think i'm gonna buy it....i got plans for this thing, and you guys' bikes are great inspiration!
i had fun working on my 'bob' and no doubt i'll have just as much fun with the springer
Hope you don't mind the performance loss in REAL WORLD riding siuations. My EFI adjusts several times a second to altitude, humidity, fuel, and a myriad of other factors. You set the carb for 2,000 Ft. elevation on a hot sunny day, and for it to run right...you have to have 1. A hot, sunny day, and 2. 2,000 ft. elevation. When it changes, I keep on marching along, and my bike is ALWAYS in tune. When it gets REAL cold, or the elevation changes drastically, then you start getting bog, hesitation, lean "popping" at sea level, "laziness" from being rich at high elevations. It cannot adjust unless you adjust it.....bring your wrenches, or deal with substandard Air Fuel ratios the majority of the time. I am at 13.7 aross the board. Basically spot on, and it adjusts to keep it so. You will be "somewhere else on the chart".
Carbs work on race bikes becasue you are at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) all the time. on the street, you are not.
Again, as long as it's on YOUR bike, I think it's great.
I have had TOO MANY multicarb hot rods, and carbs on hopped up bikes, to believe that they work great at anything other than WOT.
flame away.
~Joe
Last edited by traveler; Nov 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM.
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well it's a 91, 'traveler'.... so i can appreciate the carb
but if you're partial to FI, that's cool... it's not on your bike so i suppose you really don't have to worry about it, right?
i mean, i always thought that anything over a 3 degree rake looked stupid ...so, to each his own
but if you're partial to FI, that's cool... it's not on your bike so i suppose you really don't have to worry about it, right?
i mean, i always thought that anything over a 3 degree rake looked stupid ...so, to each his own
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And now for something completely different......if you do decide to own a springer, get the specialized tools to work on them. (Unless your one of those trust fund kids) I think it cost me about $250.00 for the Harley Shop Manual, parts catalog for my bike and the two sockets for the springer. (Steering bearing end end play and rocker tool). Just my 2 cents.
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jsbridgew -
Can't comment on the proposed sale pricing and no experience with springers; but, I'd say to go for it ... sounds like a cool bike and I'm sure you can have some fun with it ... and get some transportation use out of it ....
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On the subject of Paughco, I would beg to differ with the opinion that they're overpriced or insensitive to the needs of the customer ... I have dealt with them on two sets of pipes and they seemed to be quite fair ... the set I have on my bike now cost $274 (no heat shields, but I was able to pick them up in the classified ads) .... from what I've seen, for the most part their pricing seems to be fairly competetitive (the Dyna springer seems to be something of an anomaly) ....
R/
'Chop
Can't comment on the proposed sale pricing and no experience with springers; but, I'd say to go for it ... sounds like a cool bike and I'm sure you can have some fun with it ... and get some transportation use out of it ....
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On the subject of Paughco, I would beg to differ with the opinion that they're overpriced or insensitive to the needs of the customer ... I have dealt with them on two sets of pipes and they seemed to be quite fair ... the set I have on my bike now cost $274 (no heat shields, but I was able to pick them up in the classified ads) .... from what I've seen, for the most part their pricing seems to be fairly competetitive (the Dyna springer seems to be something of an anomaly) ....
R/
'Chop
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"It makes no sense to ask for advice, and then get butt hurt when you get it."
...huh?
i think you need help, Joe
i didn't ask for advice on a carburetor... i was asking for advice on the price of a 91 springer with 30k miles
go out and ride... and while you're at it, get a life
...huh?
i think you need help, Joe
i didn't ask for advice on a carburetor... i was asking for advice on the price of a 91 springer with 30k miles
go out and ride... and while you're at it, get a life
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I honestly believed that. Exactly like you. I had a DNA on my Shovel and was happy enough with it. To be totally honest, it worked fine. Thats why I put the DNA on my Low Rider as pictured. Again, it worked fine. Also, (as mentioned) you can get a Paughco for allot less than the $2,100 units for the Dyna. Around a thousand bucks for a Shovel, Pan or Softail. You can believe me or not, but there is absolutely ZERO comparison between the two. Is the Paughco worth the extra money? Only the purchaser can decide, but I stand by my statement....the DNA is a pile of garbage when compared to the Paughco. The DNA springs, is shiny and looks fine. But in comparison to ride quality, chrome quality, weld quality, weight, girth, sturdiness and overall appearance, the DNA is completely substandard to the Paughco. I ran both on the exact same bike. Dixie Dreg is completely correct. At least in this case, you get what you pay for.
.. JUST KIDDING bud, I love Dyna's, actually I did hear it from an HA memeber that if a club bike has shocks, it better be a Dyna or a Bagger . they handle great and perfrom amazing.As for getting this front end for it, won't it be cheaper to do something to the frame itself ? I know a guy here who did that on his Yamaha RoadStar bike so now it accepts Softail front ends, he ran a wide glide on it (he also chopped the bike totally, raked it, and it s really nice looking until you get closer and see the ugly Yamaha engine
.Oh.. yeaa.. I love carbs too, I have computers in my Jap car
but not in my bike .. thank you
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2 more cents... Evo's on softails are very different than on Dyna's, they are rigid and my experience is that they buzz at freeway speed, some get used to it, some even like it. if you are curising in town, bar hopping, this is no big deal., but more than 2 hours on the freewyas, will be unpleasant at the very least.
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"It makes no sense to ask for advice, and then get butt hurt when you get it."
...huh?
i think you need help, Joe
i didn't ask for advice on a carburetor... i was asking for advice on the price of a 91 springer with 30k miles
go out and ride... and while you're at it, get a life
...huh?
i think you need help, Joe
i didn't ask for advice on a carburetor... i was asking for advice on the price of a 91 springer with 30k miles
go out and ride... and while you're at it, get a life
I do need help.