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Thundermax
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have tmax/at on my 07 train for 4 years...i like yet have not tried anything else to compare...have not had the speedo issue since upgraded firmware, but don't remember which version...easy to select and load base map (as close as possible to your setup) and the auto-tune will adjust it... you may tune it yourself but i have not done it, there's good tutorials on youtube regarding tuning....
i chose tmax/at cause i intended on motor mods, but never did...the advantage is they provide maps for diff motor displacement/cams/exhaust so you would get good performance without necessarily needing a dyno tune after such mods...
@ cpiad, connect your pc to the ecm and theres a procedure using the smartlink software to check for firmware upgrades
@ tlb, you use a program called smartlink to upload the base map to the ecm...the base maps are included with the software and it provides a functionality to check for updates/new maps
i chose tmax/at cause i intended on motor mods, but never did...the advantage is they provide maps for diff motor displacement/cams/exhaust so you would get good performance without necessarily needing a dyno tune after such mods...
@ cpiad, connect your pc to the ecm and theres a procedure using the smartlink software to check for firmware upgrades
@ tlb, you use a program called smartlink to upload the base map to the ecm...the base maps are included with the software and it provides a functionality to check for updates/new maps
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Thanks, I figure they are inside of the software. I have not loaded any of the software yet. In about 3 weeks I am going to begin my stage II install. I have to have bungs welded in my exhaust at the same time. It all looks pretty easy from the videos and manual. However, if I run into a problem, I may PM you.
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From: Out of Commiefornia!
The other thing is to also send an email or call Zippers and give them your build specifics, and they can suggest the best base map to begin with. As long as it is close, it should be able to auto-tune very quickly - here are a couple of YouTube links to get you started:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ohzFjhDcs - Getting started with ThunderMax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sCO4OG6BiM - Great one showing a ThunderMax autotuning a grossly mis-tuned motor
http://www.youtube.com/ThunderMaxAv - ThunderMax YouTube channel
From my experience Zippers provides excellent customer support and is very responsive, even via email. They responded very quickly when I was getting my cams done and provided the best base map starting point for my configuration.
Roger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ohzFjhDcs - Getting started with ThunderMax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sCO4OG6BiM - Great one showing a ThunderMax autotuning a grossly mis-tuned motor
http://www.youtube.com/ThunderMaxAv - ThunderMax YouTube channel
From my experience Zippers provides excellent customer support and is very responsive, even via email. They responded very quickly when I was getting my cams done and provided the best base map starting point for my configuration.
Roger
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From: Out of Commiefornia!
Here's a good one for you to see the initial setup, including selecting the specifics regarding selecting the basemap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nr3akoWt6w&NR=1
Roger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nr3akoWt6w&NR=1
Roger
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Thanks, I figure they are inside of the software. I have not loaded any of the software yet. In about 3 weeks I am going to begin my stage II install. I have to have bungs welded in my exhaust at the same time. It all looks pretty easy from the videos and manual. However, if I run into a problem, I may PM you.
, lesson learned never happened again...it helps if you got a battery tender, especially cause the ecm init requires cycling the ignition on/off for 30 secs 3 times...i have been off the forum for a while cause too much work, but i'll gladly help if can
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My biggest concern is having the O2 bungs welded in. My dealer does not weld them in. I will have to go to a muffler shop to have it done.
I have some pictures of them installed and I will measure them off, marking the location before I take them in.
I do not want to pay a muffler shop to mark them and remove the pipes.
I could actually weld them in, I have a wire-feed welder, but I really am not a great welder. I am fine welding on fence posts or a trailer, but thin metal is a challenge for me.
I have some pictures of them installed and I will measure them off, marking the location before I take them in.
I do not want to pay a muffler shop to mark them and remove the pipes.
I could actually weld them in, I have a wire-feed welder, but I really am not a great welder. I am fine welding on fence posts or a trailer, but thin metal is a challenge for me.
the install is easy, at least was for me, and i'm no expert...only issue i had, that i remember, was that i drained my battery cause i kept the ignition on while reading instructions during the process , lesson learned never happened again...it helps if you got a battery tender, especially cause the ecm init requires cycling the ignition on/off for 30 secs 3 times...
i have been off the forum for a while cause too much work, but i'll gladly help if can
, lesson learned never happened again...it helps if you got a battery tender, especially cause the ecm init requires cycling the ignition on/off for 30 secs 3 times...i have been off the forum for a while cause too much work, but i'll gladly help if can
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From: Out of Commiefornia!
Best bet is to have an expert do so, and absolutely make sure they're in the right location for your pipes.
Roger
Roger
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the install is easy, at least was for me, and i'm no expert...only issue i had, that i remember, was that i drained my battery cause i kept the ignition on while reading instructions during the process , lesson learned never happened again...it helps if you got a battery tender, especially cause the ecm init requires cycling the ignition on/off for 30 secs 3 times...
i have been off the forum for a while cause too much work, but i'll gladly help if can
, lesson learned never happened again...it helps if you got a battery tender, especially cause the ecm init requires cycling the ignition on/off for 30 secs 3 times...i have been off the forum for a while cause too much work, but i'll gladly help if can
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U can do it
My biggest concern is having the O2 bungs welded in. My dealer does not weld them in. I will have to go to a muffler shop to have it done.
I have some pictures of them installed and I will measure them off, marking the location before I take them in.
I do not want to pay a muffler shop to mark them and remove the pipes.
I could actually weld them in, I have a wire-feed welder, but I really am not a great welder. I am fine welding on fence posts or a trailer, but thin metal is a challenge for me.
I have some pictures of them installed and I will measure them off, marking the location before I take them in.
I do not want to pay a muffler shop to mark them and remove the pipes.
I could actually weld them in, I have a wire-feed welder, but I really am not a great welder. I am fine welding on fence posts or a trailer, but thin metal is a challenge for me.
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