V&H Fuel Manager
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V&H Fuel Manager
I'm looking at buying the Vance & Hines fuel management system for my Deuce because I have V&H pipes. Has anybody bought this and does it work as well as V&H advertises it does? Any negatives?
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Welcome to the Forum! What year, what air cleaner, and the big question, what are you planning on doing later. I've said this many times in here,: If all you are gonna do is exhaust and air cleaner, get a Dobeck DFO. They are relatively inexpensive, and very simple to use. Much easier than a Fuelpak. Had one on mine til I did cams and future mods coming.Worked perfectly. If you plan on doing more in the near future, go to FuelMoto and get their PCIII. I have seen in here plenty of trouble with the Fuelpak, but don't have any experience myself.
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When bikes had carbuerators, the purpose of re-jetting it was to richen up the air mixture with more fuel to compensate for more air coming in through the free-flowing air filter and a free flowing exhaust. More air in = more fuel needed = more air out the exhaust. Same thing applies to fuel injection. It's relativiely simple. I have the XiED enrichment device on my bike along with a V&H FuelPak and they work very well together. The V&H FuelPak picks up where the XiED leaves off. I have had no popping, the bike runs great, and the plugs look perfect. All I've done to my bike is add the SE air flilter and Rush 2:1 exhaust. In that case, all I needed to do is add more fuel to compensate for more air. That's been my experience with it. I try not to over-complicate things.
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I had the V&H fuel pak. It sucked with the factory specified settings. Called customer service, who were quite polite, and got new settings. Still sucked. Popped on decel, dead spots during certain RPM's, pinging, rough idling, etc.. Trashed it and went with the Power Vision, problems solved with FuelMoto map.
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When bikes had carbuerators, the purpose of re-jetting it was to richen up the air mixture with more fuel to compensate for more air coming in through the free-flowing air filter and a free flowing exhaust. More air in = more fuel needed = more air out the exhaust. Same thing applies to fuel injection. It's relativiely simple. I have the XiED enrichment device on my bike along with a V&H FuelPak and they work very well together. The V&H FuelPak picks up where the XiED leaves off. I have had no popping, the bike runs great, and the plugs look perfect. All I've done to my bike is add the SE air flilter and Rush 2:1 exhaust. In that case, all I needed to do is add more fuel to compensate for more air. That's been my experience with it. I try not to over-complicate things.
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When bikes had carbuerators, the purpose of re-jetting it was to richen up the air mixture with more fuel to compensate for more air coming in through the free-flowing air filter and a free flowing exhaust. More air in = more fuel needed = more air out the exhaust. Same thing applies to fuel injection. It's relativiely simple. I have the XiED enrichment device on my bike along with a V&H FuelPak and they work very well together. The V&H FuelPak picks up where the XiED leaves off. I have had no popping, the bike runs great, and the plugs look perfect. All I've done to my bike is add the SE air flilter and Rush 2:1 exhaust. In that case, all I needed to do is add more fuel to compensate for more air. That's been my experience with it. I try not to over-complicate things.
I've got the V&H short shots, Ness Double Barrel breather, & Fuelpak with Stage 1. If I add the Xieds, do you think that will get rid of my decel popping and low speed surging? Sounds like it might be the cure that I need.
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You might have a tough time tuning the decel pop out of the Short Shots without a true tuner and some dyno time. Even then you'll likely still have the occasional fart.
On a side note, if you have the stage 1 download call V&H since there will likely be subtle changes to at least a few of the cells. They are very helpful although I still think the product sucks in general.
On a side note, if you have the stage 1 download call V&H since there will likely be subtle changes to at least a few of the cells. They are very helpful although I still think the product sucks in general.
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Nocturnalnature,
I hear ya, from what I've read in these forums ( Man, there is a shipload of knowledge in here! ) if mine hadn't had the Fuelpak when I bought it, I probably would have opted for something else. But since it's there, I figure I'll work with it. I already found the "Numbers" for the Stage 1 set-up on the Fuelpak, and entered them ( The numbers that were in it didn't jive with the Stage 1 OR Stock settings ) and the bike runs much better, but the pop and surge drive me nuts. Guess I'm just hoping for a low buck fix rather than swapping the fuel management system.
I hear ya, from what I've read in these forums ( Man, there is a shipload of knowledge in here! ) if mine hadn't had the Fuelpak when I bought it, I probably would have opted for something else. But since it's there, I figure I'll work with it. I already found the "Numbers" for the Stage 1 set-up on the Fuelpak, and entered them ( The numbers that were in it didn't jive with the Stage 1 OR Stock settings ) and the bike runs much better, but the pop and surge drive me nuts. Guess I'm just hoping for a low buck fix rather than swapping the fuel management system.
