Bottoming The Suspension Out Hard!
Road Master
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 789
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From: Utah
There is no comparison. Had the 422s for a season, and while they were better than stock, Shotguns are in a league of their own.
I got tired of climbing under the bike every time to adjust from solo to 2 up. The Shotgun makes it simple to do on the fly (in the middle of riding I can decide to ride lower and stiffer if I want) and the comfort level of riding with the Shotgun is FAR superior to the 422s. About 3x the cost of the 422s, but worth every penny.
There are lots of members here who have gone the same route as me: ditched the 422s (even though they are a great product and much better than stock) to go with the Shotguns. I have yet to hear of anyone going the opposite direction.
I got tired of climbing under the bike every time to adjust from solo to 2 up. The Shotgun makes it simple to do on the fly (in the middle of riding I can decide to ride lower and stiffer if I want) and the comfort level of riding with the Shotgun is FAR superior to the 422s. About 3x the cost of the 422s, but worth every penny.
There are lots of members here who have gone the same route as me: ditched the 422s (even though they are a great product and much better than stock) to go with the Shotguns. I have yet to hear of anyone going the opposite direction.
Road Master
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 789
Likes: 4
From: Utah
There is no comparison. Had the 422s for a season, and while they were better than stock, Shotguns are in a league of their own.
I got tired of climbing under the bike every time to adjust from solo to 2 up. The Shotgun makes it simple to do on the fly (in the middle of riding I can decide to ride lower and stiffer if I want) and the comfort level of riding with the Shotgun is FAR superior to the 422s. About 3x the cost of the 422s, but worth every penny.
There are lots of members here who have gone the same route as me: ditched the 422s (even though they are a great product and much better than stock) to go with the Shotguns. I have yet to hear of anyone going the opposite direction.
I got tired of climbing under the bike every time to adjust from solo to 2 up. The Shotgun makes it simple to do on the fly (in the middle of riding I can decide to ride lower and stiffer if I want) and the comfort level of riding with the Shotgun is FAR superior to the 422s. About 3x the cost of the 422s, but worth every penny.
There are lots of members here who have gone the same route as me: ditched the 422s (even though they are a great product and much better than stock) to go with the Shotguns. I have yet to hear of anyone going the opposite direction.
Road Master
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 789
Likes: 4
From: Utah
There is no comparison. Had the 422s for a season, and while they were better than stock, Shotguns are in a league of their own.
I got tired of climbing under the bike every time to adjust from solo to 2 up. The Shotgun makes it simple to do on the fly (in the middle of riding I can decide to ride lower and stiffer if I want) and the comfort level of riding with the Shotgun is FAR superior to the 422s. About 3x the cost of the 422s, but worth every penny.
There are lots of members here who have gone the same route as me: ditched the 422s (even though they are a great product and much better than stock) to go with the Shotguns. I have yet to hear of anyone going the opposite direction.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,593
Likes: 11
From: Mass/NH
Ditto on that on the Progressive springs!!!!! Makes a huge positive change. I have 422 in back and stock length springs in front. The front springs made a MONUMENTAL POSITIVE CHANGE!!! Only cost 75 bucks. Wish I had done it muchhhhhhh earlier. I got them at dennis kirk, good price. rears were 380 bucks. 1 hr install front, 2 hr install rear. Potholes stink...
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From: Detroit
Also wondering. Did you switch because you were you mostly interested in being able to raise and lower the bike easily, or have you found that there are other advantages (or disadvantages) compared to the 422's?
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Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Illinois
The Shotgun Shock on back is much more than a product that just allows you to raise and lower your bike. The ride is incredible, it eats up adverse road conditions, gives a more comfortable ride, it increases road safety by giving you better control over the bike when you get in a jam from or by cagers. It also has the lifetime warranty and the customer service is unmatched by any other product or vendor. As for the front I pulled my springs and had the Progressive monotubes dropped in minus 2 inch's. With the combination of these 2 products, my bike is now the best riding bike I have ever been on in my 40 years of riding.
Progressive Suspension
We have been getting a lot of good feedback on the entire progressive line sold. Here are links to look at the info on the 422 series. Our ebay site does not have the HD version listed but it is the same price. Also doesn't have the RAP (remote adjustable preload) version. List price on the RAP version is $749, but call and I will see what discounts we can apply. Can have them all shipped to you this week if you want them.
Our Ebay link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PROGRESS...item5d3c63055c
Progressive suspension link:
http://www.progressivesuspension.com...RAP/index.html
Our Ebay link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PROGRESS...item5d3c63055c
Progressive suspension link:
http://www.progressivesuspension.com...RAP/index.html
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Joined: Mar 2011
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From: NorCal Rocklin
The first agenda is to lose some weight prior into doing some mods. You'll save more money losing weight then buying new stuff to put on. So people complain about bottoming out maybe if you weren't such a fat *** (not directly to you but to everybody) we wouldn't have these issues.
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From: Toronto, Ontario
For the 'set it and forget it' crowd, the 422's is a good choice for sure. when they were at stock height they were fantastic and at lower heights they were very good.
Air Ride is adjustable and it can get very confusing and opens a new can of warms (when you lower the bike too much you can rub your belt for pre 2006 bikes or even rub on rear fender wires, etc..)... but I digress.
The air ride is superior for the follwoing :
Number 1&3 applied to me, so.. if you ask me now to go back to 422's I will not be very happy, but I can tell you installing the Shotguns was not an easy task (even for my Indy) , and as always, the more components and wires you add, the more you open yourself to a new wire/fuse/pump failure.
The good thing about SS is the excellent customer support and the presumed ability of the bike to ride without the compressor in case of failure.
Air Ride is adjustable and it can get very confusing and opens a new can of warms (when you lower the bike too much you can rub your belt for pre 2006 bikes or even rub on rear fender wires, etc..)... but I digress.
The air ride is superior for the follwoing :
- Riding really low (more than 2" down) for the cool slammed look and want to keep their teeth filling intact.
- People who frequently want to change ride height/preload for frequent passenger/solo situations.
- People who change riding styles from canyon aggressive to slow cruising often.
Number 1&3 applied to me, so.. if you ask me now to go back to 422's I will not be very happy, but I can tell you installing the Shotguns was not an easy task (even for my Indy) , and as always, the more components and wires you add, the more you open yourself to a new wire/fuse/pump failure.
The good thing about SS is the excellent customer support and the presumed ability of the bike to ride without the compressor in case of failure.
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From: Detroit
The first agenda is to lose some weight prior into doing some mods. You'll save more money losing weight then buying new stuff to put on. So people complain about bottoming out maybe if you weren't such a fat *** (not directly to you but to everybody) we wouldn't have these issues.
I'm currently about 185, around 172 when I'm in good fightin' shape, so I'm thinkin' it must be my wife that's the problem.
A pic of the wife below, so you can advise me on how much weight she needs to lose.
You made a good point. Don't want to waste money on suspension mods, when being overweight is the real problem.
Last edited by Warp Factor; May 14, 2013 at 07:24 PM.