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Old May 29, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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Some preliminary results from a cheap experiment: It’s not that I’m obsessed with being cheap, but the engineer part of me is attracted to a basic engineering axiom known as the KISS principle. It stands for, "Keep it simple, stupid!"

What would be one of the simplest and most cost-effective ways to get progressive springing? A larger and cushier bumpstop. The more the rubber is compressed, the more resistance it has to being compressed further.

So I glued some pieces of innertube rubber together, making a pad about 1” by 1”, and a little under ˝ inch thick. and stuck it to the factory bumpstop with doublesided tape. Why innertube rubber? Because it is easily available, it’s easy to vary the thickness experimentally by adding or subtracting layers, and because innertube rubber has fairly uniform and repeatable properties, or “squishiness”.

Testing it two-up, the home-made rubber nerd compressed all the way on the largest bumps, still allowing the swingarm to reach the end of its travel on occasion, but the hit wasn’t nearly as hard. In fact, we didn’t really feel the bottoming out as we had before . The only way I knew it had happened was because I put some modeling clay on the factory part of the bumpstop, and it was squashed flat.

The height and width of the additional bumpstop might need to be refined a bit to get things optimal, but this could be a useful idea for those with lowered bikes, which have less suspension travel. My Rocker isn’t lowered, but it comes from the factory with about an inch less rear suspension travel than most softails. So does the Fat Boy Low, and maybe a few other bikes. This method keeps the suspension normal and comfortable for most riding, but adds stiffness when it gets about 2/3rds of the way to bottoming out.

Below is a photo showing the original factory bumpstop, with the extra nerd stuck at the center. At the left is the squashed yellow clay, showing that the swingarm still traveled all the way to the factory bumpstop. Sorry about the bike being so filthy. It had just been ridden home in the rain from a Memorial Day run/rally/ceremony.
 
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Old May 29, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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you sir are awesome and got me thinking .. too
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Some preliminary results from a cheap experiment: It’s not that I’m obsessed with being cheap, but the engineer part of me is attracted to a basic engineering axiom known as the KISS principle. It stands for, "Keep it simple, stupid!"

What would be one of the simplest and most cost-effective ways to get progressive springing? A larger and cushier bumpstop. The more the rubber is compressed, the more resistance it has to being compressed further.

So I glued some pieces of innertube rubber together, making a pad about 1” by 1”, and a little under ˝ inch thick. and stuck it to the factory bumpstop with doublesided tape. Why innertube rubber? Because it is easily available, it’s easy to vary the thickness experimentally by adding or subtracting layers, and because innertube rubber has fairly uniform and repeatable properties, or “squishiness”.

Testing it two-up, the home-made rubber nerd compressed all the way on the largest bumps, still allowing the swingarm to reach the end of its travel on occasion, but the hit wasn’t nearly as hard. In fact, we didn’t really feel the bottoming out as we had before . The only way I knew it had happened was because I put some modeling clay on the factory part of the bumpstop, and it was squashed flat.

The height and width of the additional bumpstop might need to be refined a bit to get things optimal, but this could be a useful idea for those with lowered bikes, which have less suspension travel. My Rocker isn’t lowered, but it comes from the factory with about an inch less rear suspension travel than most softails. So does the Fat Boy Low, and maybe a few other bikes. This method keeps the suspension normal and comfortable for most riding, but adds stiffness when it gets about 2/3rds of the way to bottoming out.

Below is a photo showing the original factory bumpstop, with the extra nerd stuck at the center. At the left is the squashed yellow clay, showing that the swingarm still traveled all the way to the factory bumpstop. Sorry about the bike being so filthy. It had just been ridden home in the rain from a Memorial Day run/rally/ceremony.
 
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