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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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So I have the pc v installed and the bike is running much better. Looking a little closer, those of you that suspected an exhaust leak may be right. So I took it into the dealer to have them take a look. Of course no service people on today. I was talking with their parts guy and told him I put the pc v on. He said to be careful with the pc v because it bypasses the o2 sensors and that could do some damage. Any truth to that?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Been running my PC V for 25000 miles now. No problems.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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Just don't have your o2 sensors hooked up.
You'll be fine.
Been runnin' mine for 3.5 years.
No issues.

Do not listen to your dealer's BS about the PC-V.
They hate them, because they cannot compete w/them.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lionsm13
Just don't have your o2 sensors hooked up.
You'll be fine.
Been runnin' mine for 3.5 years.
No issues.

Do not listen to your dealer's BS about the PC-V.
They hate them, because they cannot compete w/them.
Kind of what I figured. It seems like many of you swear by the pcs. I stopped by because they installed my pipes so if they're leaking they're supposed to be repaired under warranty.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Many of the aftermarket tuners no longer use the signal from the oxygen sensors, and operate in "open loop" all the time instead. Personally, I don't know if losing the ability to cruise in closed loop, using the feedback from the oxygen sensors, is something I'd want to give up.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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So some interesting insight at the dealer today. The exhaust leak is fixed and on another 95 degree day I didn't notice it pop once! Running the best it ever has.

The flipside. My check engine light is on. Take it back and it turns out one of the o2 sensors is screwy! Yay, another trip to the dealer because they didn't have an o2 sensor in stock. So my next question is if the pc v bypasses the o2 sensor would a faulty o2 sensor still throw a code? Or was the other mechanic I spoke to mistaken?

one other tidbit of info that sways me on one of the debates around here. I spoke to one of our mechanics at my workplace about lean running engines. He says running an engine too lean will absolutely damage an engine. I guess a lot of the heat you're feeling is not only the lean combustion but also from undue friction because the piston chamber isn't getting properly lubricated. That's going to damage the piston heads, walls, gaskets, etc. He admitted he doesn't have a lot of experience with motorcycle engines but if the engine is backfiring consistently and the spark plugs look bad those are signs of an engine running too lean. If this is true of liquid cooled engines it has to be much worse for air cooled!

My dealer says they are talking to hd about how the new 103s are running from harley. They encourage anyone with issues from their 103s to call harley directly. The number is 414-343-4056. They say that typically customers get a much better response than the dealers do.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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I'm assuming you installed the Dynojet O2 sensor eliminators?
Had mine for 3 years, runs great, no problems whatsoever.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by streeteagle
I'm assuming you installed the Dynojet O2 sensor eliminators?
Had mine for 3 years, runs great, no problems whatsoever.
Ha ha! That part of my instructions didn't make it with the pc v. I kept asking myself, wtf are these guys talking about! Glad I looked up the instructions on line. Those aren't just some type of adapter.
 
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