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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 03:44 AM
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Man, I'm actually not impressed with the turning of my bike, pushed it a little further than I have before, today... Found just how far is too far to lean into a corner, which is sad, because I've only had the bike 3 weeks.

I scraped my primary cover on a corner... Luckily it didn't result in a low side, but there is a good gouge in the bottom of the primary cover. Can't really see it though
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 04:29 AM
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I will scrape my pegs before the primary...... Scraping the pegs lets me know the primary is next and if possible i'll try to avoid that at all cost! Unfortunately this is the nature of the Breakout in pretty much any turns, you don't even have to be aggressive when scraping BUT I LOVE THIS BIKE and i will deal with it lol
 

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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by weezl
Man, I'm actually not impressed with the turning of my bike, pushed it a little further than I have before, today... Found just how far is too far to lean into a corner, which is sad, because I've only had the bike 3 weeks.

I scraped my primary cover on a corner... Luckily it didn't result in a low side, but there is a good gouge in the bottom of the primary cover. Can't really see it though
Usually for me the first to scrape is the heel of my boot. Next is the peg and then comes the primary. This being said you must of ignored the first indicators ; )
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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weezl how fast were you going at the time? And please be honest.
I know that in very tight slow turns I can scrape it all. But at exiting ramps which I can do at speeds in excess of 40- 50mph (360* ramps are slower) nothing will scrape.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by weezl
Man, I'm actually not impressed with the turning of my bike, pushed it a little further than I have before, today... Found just how far is too far to lean into a corner, which is sad, because I've only had the bike 3 weeks.

I scraped my primary cover on a corner... Luckily it didn't result in a low side, but there is a good gouge in the bottom of the primary cover. Can't really see it though
Bummer - yep there is only so much lean angle especially on a stock bike. if you upgrade the fork springs and dampers you'll maintain clearance better. the front stock springs are so mushy the bike collapses under it's own weight and gravity in a turn, pulling bike closer to ground, scrapes much sooner than it should. if you hit a dip or bump in corner and are already pushing it you can slap down on the primary.

heck you lose an inch of clearance just sitting on the bike with the stock springs. anyway, the upgrade makes a very good difference in all aspects of riding, especially braking, so you may want to think about doing it.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
Bummer - yep there is only so much lean angle especially on a stock bike. if you upgrade the fork springs and dampers you'll maintain clearance better. the front stock springs are so mushy the bike collapses under it's own weight and gravity in a turn, pulling bike closer to ground, scrapes much sooner than it should. if you hit a dip or bump in corner and are already pushing it you can slap down on the primary.

heck you lose an inch of clearance just sitting on the bike with the stock springs. anyway, the upgrade makes a very good difference in all aspects of riding, especially braking, so you may want to think about doing it.

LA, you're the best salesman RaceTech and Ricor have got !! Not that I'm knocking that. As you know, I've upgraded my forks as you have and I'm now waiting for Great Canadian Spring conditions to abate before hitting the road for a trial run.

If I can do this, anyone can and anyone with an opposable thumb and forefinger can deal with their ABS brakes within seconds too, (index the sensor/spacer). It will sure be nice to do an abrupt stop on a machine that stays flat for a change.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:42 AM
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^^ LOL - yeh well sorry if it feels like I'm hawking a specific couple of products- not really, it's more of "there is nothing else available" - heh. I'd much rather be hawking Ohlins drop in triple adjustable cartridges, ya know?? but, no dice...

The sole reason I prefer the Ricor is ease of install for the average home DIY'r, and they work as well as the Racetech emulators. same principal just different approaches with one damper product vs the other but they are both equally good.

there are no other spring options besides RaceTech- but they are damn good springs so thank goodness for that. Yeh there are Progressive brand springs, IMO progressive-rate and dual-rate springs have no business in motorcycle forks. correct single rate springs, or full-on drop in cartridges, are the only way to go. And I'm not talking "racey" riding, I'm talking normal every day riding, safety and braking.
 

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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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** Please note that some Breakout owners calling Ricor have been advised to use 10w oil in the forks with the dampers. This is INCORRECT, and you should only use 5w fork oil.

This was again confirmed by Brian at Ricor, who has now moved over to the engineering side of the operations and is not much on the phones anymore.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Dog, sorry but you were mistaken when stating that I used the "RaceTech gold emulator dampers". Actually I didn't have any aftermarket dampers installed. Only thing I did is I had the stock springs swapped for the Progressive Suspension fork springs.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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^^ sorry bud- guess I need more coffee- could have sworn you did the dampers as well. you planning to or no?
 
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