The Age Old Question...
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Road Master
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The Age Old Question...
Been away from HD for a few years and recently came home with a new 14 Fat Boy. Wanting to add some slip-ons for a LITTLE better sound. Do I need a stage 1 if I just do slip-ons? I know I do if I do a new Air filter. the reason I ask is I may slip some pipes on in the near term and then come back and do a Stage 1 when I do my 1000 oil change. After that I will do my own wrenching. Also, whats the going rate on a stage 1 these days? I have looked at the New V/H tuner that you can do from your phone but don't want any warranty issues.
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A stage 1, in my opinion, is always needed. The bike will gain a few ponies, a little torque and it will run a little cooler too. I also feel, think, that if one goes that far just do a cam with it too if you can afford too. I'm a HUGE fan of performance and I don't necessarily mean blowing the motor out, I mean having what you already have running at peak performance. A cam has it's advantages but one of the biggest, to me, is it gives the bike the power to get yourself out of a mess should the need ever arise. Keep us posted, I like following a person who just got a new bike or on the trek with a used bike to enhance it's performance. I like watching what people go with and the results and this is a great site to do that with. Good luck!
No need for re-MAP with just slip ons. You will need it with a High Flow Air Filter set up. I have heard good words about the V/H Tuner you mentioned, in fact my Indy HD mechanic has one on his Street Glide and loves it.
A riding buddy of mine has a 2011 Street Glide with V?H slip ons and a free flowing A/C set up and he does not have a tuner. His bike seems to run good and he says he will add a tuner when he gets rid of the CAT.
A riding buddy of mine has a 2011 Street Glide with V?H slip ons and a free flowing A/C set up and he does not have a tuner. His bike seems to run good and he says he will add a tuner when he gets rid of the CAT.
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Road Master
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is the "stage One" still just a download? or is a SERT required? As I remember back in 07-08, I just got a download on my 07 Night Train. Then on my 2008 EG Classic the dealer talked me into a SERT and a dyno. I really couldn't tell any difference on a stock engine. For the way I ride I just want a tad better (not loud) sound and a cooler running bike...Just a "download" if possible. Any comments/sugestions appreciated!
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My two cents:
I agree. I had a dealer quote me $2500 for a stage 1, when I can do it myself for closer to $1100-$1200. **** if I'm going to pay nearly an extra $1500 for labor and a dyno tune, to net what I am assuming is going to be basically negligible increases. I got an FP3 and reflashed it myself and it seems to be running cooler, slightly but gas milage, no decel pop, and it seems to have a little more grunt. Good enough for me.
I agree. I had a dealer quote me $2500 for a stage 1, when I can do it myself for closer to $1100-$1200. **** if I'm going to pay nearly an extra $1500 for labor and a dyno tune, to net what I am assuming is going to be basically negligible increases. I got an FP3 and reflashed it myself and it seems to be running cooler, slightly but gas milage, no decel pop, and it seems to have a little more grunt. Good enough for me.
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My two cents:
I agree. I had a dealer quote me $2500 for a stage 1, when I can do it myself for closer to $1100-$1200. **** if I'm going to pay nearly an extra $1500 for labor and a dyno tune, to net what I am assuming is going to be basically negligible increases. I got an FP3 and reflashed it myself and it seems to be running cooler, slightly but gas milage, no decel pop, and it seems to have a little more grunt. Good enough for me.
I agree. I had a dealer quote me $2500 for a stage 1, when I can do it myself for closer to $1100-$1200. **** if I'm going to pay nearly an extra $1500 for labor and a dyno tune, to net what I am assuming is going to be basically negligible increases. I got an FP3 and reflashed it myself and it seems to be running cooler, slightly but gas milage, no decel pop, and it seems to have a little more grunt. Good enough for me.
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I do my own wrenching and have installed PCV, Cobra tuners, etc. along with pipes, air cleaners and the such. Bike has 100 miles on it and I don't want to screw up the warranty. I guess that's the big issue here. If it wasn't for the warranty I would have already called jamie @ Fuelmoto and it would be done! I don't mind living with a 150.00 download and installing an air cleaner and pipes if that can still be done.
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