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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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That's odd, most people have good things to say about Fuel Moto's quality.

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since you don't have anything constructive to post......stay the fvck away from my post
Good luck with that.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Road-Rash
That's odd, most people have good things to say about Fuel Moto's quality.



Good luck with that.
Fuel Moto products and support are great.

This quote " since you don;t have anything constructive to post......stay the **** away from my post" is directed towards Dusty Bones only.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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This quote " since you don;t have anything constructive to post......stay the **** away from my post" is directed towards Dusty Bones only.
I know. That's why I wished you luck.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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Or he could take it to the dealer under warranty.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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When I was riding touring bikes , a few guys had this problem sometimes.
Next time you ride , let the bike stay at base (low) idle for about 5 seconds before you shut it down.
See if it does it next time.
Some guys blip the throttle just before shutting the bike off , and the ECU remembers the last throttle position that it saw , so the next time it starts , it thinks 1/3 throttle is the base throttle setting.
By letting the bike idle for 5 seconds before shutdown , the ECU "sees" the correct last position of the throttle position sensor , and starts and idles properly on the next cycle.
Sound wierd , but it works sometimes , and it's free.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mick
When I was riding touring bikes , a few guys had this problem sometimes.
Next time you ride , let the bike stay at base (low) idle for about 5 seconds before you shut it down.
See if it does it next time.
Some guys blip the throttle just before shutting the bike off , and the ECU remembers the last throttle position that it saw , so the next time it starts , it thinks 1/3 throttle is the base throttle setting.
By letting the bike idle for 5 seconds before shutdown , the ECU "sees" the correct last position of the throttle position sensor , and starts and idles properly on the next cycle.
Sound wierd , but it works sometimes , and it's free.
Mick
Kawasaki's Voyager in 2009 had similar issues as what you are describing.
I'll give your idea a try on the 5 secomd idle and see if it helps.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 04:30 AM
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Slip Ons.
it runs leaner after putting on the slip ons. Your problem will go away after tuning. Upgrade your air filter and retune.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by OddJack
it runs leaner after putting on the slip ons. Your problem will go away after tuning. Upgrade your air filter and retune.
Old wives tale, so old its an old grandmas tale these days. EFI on bikes is the same as EFI on cars. The purpose of the O2 sensor is to read O2 content and adjust the fuel, and it does that with any air cleaner or pipes and sets it right back to factory AFR. As with cars it takes a bit to relearn so dont just run around the block and complain. Let it learn, go for a 30 mile minimum ride with stops, high and low speed and it will be set.

http://www.nightrider.com/parts/ied_faq.htm

Never rely on a tuners advertisement for education value. They want one thing only, your money. As it is unless the tuner says not street legal, off road use only then you are getting the same thing you always had for fuel. EPA compliant lean.

Now if he did that carb conversion then yeah, it will not adjust and will require some fiddling with.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Bones
Old wives tale, so old its an old grandmas tale these days. EFI on bikes is the same as EFI on cars. The purpose of the O2 sensor is to read O2 content and adjust the fuel, and it does that with any air cleaner or pipes and sets it right back to factory AFR. As with cars it takes a bit to relearn so dont just run around the block and complain. Let it learn, go for a 30 mile minimum ride with stops, high and low speed and it will be set.

http://www.nightrider.com/parts/ied_faq.htm

Never rely on a tuners advertisement for education value. They want one thing only, your money. As it is unless the tuner says not street legal, off road use only then you are getting the same thing you always had for fuel. EPA compliant lean.

Now if he did that carb conversion then yeah, it will not adjust and will require some fiddling with.
Your advice is a old wives tale.
The 2014 and newer bikes have a different O2 sensor. Your advice doesn't work with all slip on pipes, and neither does the Night Rider XIED's.
Spoke to Steve at Knight Rider several times and we couldn't get the popping to stop.
BTW.....The link you posted is from a vendor trying to sell you their product.
"Never rely on a tuners advertisement for education value. They want one thing only, your money.*"
Since you don't ever have anything constructive to say.......stay the FVCK off my thread DickBone.
 

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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Guzzi
Your advice is a old wives tale.
The 2014 and newer bikes have a different O2 sensor. Your advice doesn't work with all slip on pipes, and neither does the Night Rider XIED's.
Spoke to Steve at Knight Rider several times and we couldn't get the popping to stop.
BTW.....The link you posted is from a vendor trying to sell you their product.
"Never rely on a tuners advertisement for education value. They want one thing only, your money.*"
Since you don't ever have anything constructive to say.......stay the FVCK off my thread DickBone.
Yup' they are heated and go into closed loop sooner.

I am fully aware of the HDF theme of spend more, repeat useless ****, copy paste tuner advertisements waste money=hella street cred. You dont need to remind me. No matter how trendy one feels posting about the waste of money they invest in their machine changes, it will never change fact. Some noob throws on an air cleaner and much louder pipes and they hear a little pop on decel and all hell breaks loose here. When that decel pop was there with the stock pipes, you just could barely hear it though. (and is 100% eliminated by pulling in the clutch)

So go spend (waste) your money. Unless your super micro tuner is not street legal you just bought exactly what you allready have. Congratulations, buying something twice boosts street cred here by double. A full stage 1 will drop your quarter ET by .3 seconds if you know how to ride. Or you could reduce rear wheel unsprung weight by 5 pounds and get the same exact results. But the trend is to throw a super obese rear tire on after that stage one. Silly kids, you just put them .3 seconds back on or more.

Time to buy some chrome or black it out or something, you need to redeem yourself, and up your street cred here just a little bit now.

Remember, only use MC oil, order it onlline and unless its a brand no one ever heard of, you get no more extra (stret) credit points. Make it a silly weight to or a shade tree blend, make sure to include the benefits of the two when blended. Your street cred is starting to slip here. Time to redeem.
 
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