Did you feel a difference with a Stage 1 Intake/Exhaust?
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Did you feel a difference with a Stage 1 Intake/Exhaust?
Hey everyone,
I installed a Cycle Shack Slip on when I bought my 883 few years ago and left it at that. I never did a tune, or a bigger air intake...
I'm itching to spend some money on the sporty lately so I wanted to ask people...
Did you really feel (or dyno) an increase in power with a Stage 1 air intake and slip ons (and a tune)
I'm curious what kind of gains were there (hp/tq) and if you can really feel it.
Arlen Ness claims upto 21% increase with just an air intake. for a 45hp bike, that's a rather big jump. lol... I don't really believe it which is why I came here to ask.
I was thinking of getting either the Arlen Ness or the TC Bros Ripple intake. Also a 4 pin V&H FP3
I've been itching for some extra power lately and really having a tough time letting go of my little sporty. I like the bike so maybe I'll give her some more pep and get a 1200 kit in the future.
Thanks!
I installed a Cycle Shack Slip on when I bought my 883 few years ago and left it at that. I never did a tune, or a bigger air intake...
I'm itching to spend some money on the sporty lately so I wanted to ask people...
Did you really feel (or dyno) an increase in power with a Stage 1 air intake and slip ons (and a tune)
I'm curious what kind of gains were there (hp/tq) and if you can really feel it.
Arlen Ness claims upto 21% increase with just an air intake. for a 45hp bike, that's a rather big jump. lol... I don't really believe it which is why I came here to ask.
I was thinking of getting either the Arlen Ness or the TC Bros Ripple intake. Also a 4 pin V&H FP3
I've been itching for some extra power lately and really having a tough time letting go of my little sporty. I like the bike so maybe I'll give her some more pep and get a 1200 kit in the future.
Thanks!
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You're asking the wrong audience. Once someone has spent (wasted) their money on the upgrade, there is a subconscious perception of improvement to justify the money spent.
Do your research and look at some dyno graphs of before and after mods. Do not focus only on the purported h.p. gains. See at what rpm the hp gain occurs and do likewise for the torque numbers. Once you've looked at a number of different graphs, you'll see that the minimal gains are at a narrow band of rpms. Now ask yourself how often you ride at that rpm. If you gain 5hp at 6000rpms, and you've spent close to a $1000 to do it, you'll be able to convince yourself that "it really wakes it up" "like night and day" "makes all the difference" when in fact it is such a minimal difference you'll wish you could get your money back.
Keep your 883 the way it is, it's a great bike, and when it's time to "move up" do so, but keep in mind that hp numbers are never Harley's thing. You want acceleration? Go look at a Triumph Speed Triple.
BTW, your Sporty looks great.
Do your research and look at some dyno graphs of before and after mods. Do not focus only on the purported h.p. gains. See at what rpm the hp gain occurs and do likewise for the torque numbers. Once you've looked at a number of different graphs, you'll see that the minimal gains are at a narrow band of rpms. Now ask yourself how often you ride at that rpm. If you gain 5hp at 6000rpms, and you've spent close to a $1000 to do it, you'll be able to convince yourself that "it really wakes it up" "like night and day" "makes all the difference" when in fact it is such a minimal difference you'll wish you could get your money back.
Keep your 883 the way it is, it's a great bike, and when it's time to "move up" do so, but keep in mind that hp numbers are never Harley's thing. You want acceleration? Go look at a Triumph Speed Triple.
BTW, your Sporty looks great.
Last edited by LoneWoolf; Aug 22, 2016 at 04:36 AM.
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You're asking the wrong audience. Once someone has spent (wasted) their money on the upgrade, there is a subconscious perception of improvement to justify the money spent.
Do your research and look at some dyno graphs of before and after mods. Do not focus only on the purported h.p. gains. See at what rpm the hp gain occurs and do likewise for the torque numbers. Once you've looked at a number of different graphs, you'll see that the minimal gains are at a narrow band of rpms. Now ask yourself how often you ride at that rpm. If you gain 5hp at 6000rpms, and you've spent close to a $1000 to do it, you'll be able to convince yourself that "it really wakes it up" "like night and day" "makes all the difference" when in fact it is such a minimal difference you'll wish you could get your money back.
Keep your 883 the way it is, it's a great bike, and when it's time to "move up" do so, but keep in mind that hp numbers are never Harley's thing. You want acceleration? Go look at a Triumph Speed Triple.
BTW, your Sporty looks great.
Do your research and look at some dyno graphs of before and after mods. Do not focus only on the purported h.p. gains. See at what rpm the hp gain occurs and do likewise for the torque numbers. Once you've looked at a number of different graphs, you'll see that the minimal gains are at a narrow band of rpms. Now ask yourself how often you ride at that rpm. If you gain 5hp at 6000rpms, and you've spent close to a $1000 to do it, you'll be able to convince yourself that "it really wakes it up" "like night and day" "makes all the difference" when in fact it is such a minimal difference you'll wish you could get your money back.
Keep your 883 the way it is, it's a great bike, and when it's time to "move up" do so, but keep in mind that hp numbers are never Harley's thing. You want acceleration? Go look at a Triumph Speed Triple.
BTW, your Sporty looks great.
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Hey razorseal,
Those first two repliers don't speak for me. I have an '07 1200C and did the Stage1 on my bike and installed some X14ied's as well. I have not done any Dyno tune on my bike after doing that upgrade but I believe that I do feel a bit more get up and go than before. We did the same thing on my sons '06 883C with the same pipes and A/C and re-jetted his carb. He too says he feels more get up and go. I am sure there are a heck of a lot of others out there that feel the same way! If you search the site I am sure you will find a lot more that say the same thing as I and my son do.
Those first two repliers don't speak for me. I have an '07 1200C and did the Stage1 on my bike and installed some X14ied's as well. I have not done any Dyno tune on my bike after doing that upgrade but I believe that I do feel a bit more get up and go than before. We did the same thing on my sons '06 883C with the same pipes and A/C and re-jetted his carb. He too says he feels more get up and go. I am sure there are a heck of a lot of others out there that feel the same way! If you search the site I am sure you will find a lot more that say the same thing as I and my son do.
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From: Tn
I just did short shots and a you Outlaw hi flow A/C about a month ago. By seat of my pants I can tell a difference all the way around. The fps was simple also. Do what you want to do to you scoot and make it yours.
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Originally Posted by razorseal
I'm curious what kind of gains were there (hp/tq) and if you can really feel it.
Don't go racing any rice rockets afterwards though, but on comparable stock 883, you'll pull ahead for sure.
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For a start, i got rid of the low rpm engigne sturge. Worrh it just for that. Then the sound of the exhaust. With an 883, if yuu want a gain in power you're probably better off with the 1200 or 1250 cylinder upgrade. But the exhaust sound, though, gives the most satisfaction.
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Hey everyone,
I installed a Cycle Shack Slip on when I bought my 883 few years ago and left it at that. I never did a tune, or a bigger air intake...
I'm itching to spend some money on the sporty lately so I wanted to ask people...
Did you really feel (or dyno) an increase in power with a Stage 1 air intake and slip ons (and a tune)
I'm curious what kind of gains were there (hp/tq) and if you can really feel it.
Arlen Ness claims upto 21% increase with just an air intake. for a 45hp bike, that's a rather big jump. lol... I don't really believe it which is why I came here to ask.
I was thinking of getting either the Arlen Ness or the TC Bros Ripple intake. Also a 4 pin V&H FP3
I've been itching for some extra power lately and really having a tough time letting go of my little sporty. I like the bike so maybe I'll give her some more pep and get a 1200 kit in the future.
Thanks!
I installed a Cycle Shack Slip on when I bought my 883 few years ago and left it at that. I never did a tune, or a bigger air intake...
I'm itching to spend some money on the sporty lately so I wanted to ask people...
Did you really feel (or dyno) an increase in power with a Stage 1 air intake and slip ons (and a tune)
I'm curious what kind of gains were there (hp/tq) and if you can really feel it.
Arlen Ness claims upto 21% increase with just an air intake. for a 45hp bike, that's a rather big jump. lol... I don't really believe it which is why I came here to ask.
I was thinking of getting either the Arlen Ness or the TC Bros Ripple intake. Also a 4 pin V&H FP3
I've been itching for some extra power lately and really having a tough time letting go of my little sporty. I like the bike so maybe I'll give her some more pep and get a 1200 kit in the future.
Thanks!
if you are thinking about upgrading... DO NOT BUY A FP3. you can not reuse it on another bike.
Last edited by cvaria; Aug 22, 2016 at 07:04 AM.
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I should clarify what I meant. Asking for opinions on performance gain with a stage 1 is of little value because once people invest the money they tend to convince themselves that the money spent is paying off (not always but very often). Looking at hard data is where one should go if looking at investing considerable money. If, after processing the info from data (dyno results etc.), you feel that is the direction you want to go by all means go for it. I am not slagging stage 1 upgrades on a whole but saying one should be diligent in investigating what they will be getting out of the process in comparison to money invested. Nothing to see here, carry on.