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Old 06-20-2018, 08:57 PM
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Ok. So next winters project is doing the Hammer Performance 1275 kit. What other mods did you do? Has anyone just installed the bigger jugs and pistons and call it a day? I want to start saving now for what I'll need. Not looking to build an unrideable monster but something with a little more oomph! Thanks!!
 
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I have a 100+ HP kit and my bike is smoother than it was stock. It has plenty of power and is a joy to ride.
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We get asked this basic question literally every day, usually multiple times a day. Guys do a basic conversion and they're thrilled with it, but after awhile they get used to the power and want more and they ask us how to get there. I wish I had a good answer for them, but without changing the pistons, there just isn't a good answer.

The complete reason behind that is kind of long and obscure and gets into a bunch of detail about how the heads and cams and pistons play together. The short version is that you can't put big valves into the heads, along with much overlap into the cams, without making the chambers bigger. You just physically can't do it without creating issues with valve-to-valve and valve-to-piston clearance. And bigger valves along with more overlap is exactly what the motor needs to make more power.

The issue is that making the chambers bigger drops the compression. Meanwhile, your new cams probably require more compression, not less. And you can't get your lost compression back with decking. Decking a head that far causes a whole new set of issues. You have to change the pistons.

At the end of the day, you have to think of piston and cams and heads as a matched set. You can't move any of those things very far without bringing the other two along. They're matched in numerous ways. Your reverse dome conversion pistons are well matched to the stock 883 heads and cams. They're not well matched to high overlap cams and big valve heads.

Doing a hop-up project incrementally over time is tough. You end up either buying some parts twice, or you compromise your result, or you push clearances much tighter than you should.

You can do a mild hop-up without changing the pistons, don't get me wrong. But we hate having disappointed customers, so we try to avoid that. Generally speaking that path leads to disappointment.

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Not looking to build an unrideable monster
What is an unrideable monster?
 
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What is an unrideable monster?
I probably should have written that differently. I don't want something that isn't reliable. I know too many people who build up bikes and are very temperamental. Then again they probably didn't know what they were doing and how they were gonna use their bikes. I know you did this recently. What all did you do is what I'm asking.
 
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The 100+ kit is smoother than stock and is reliable as stock. It will rev to 7400 RPM damn quick. The bike is fast. It does not over heat. Starts and sounds like a Sportster. Its what I have now. I ride this bike several times a week. It has never broke or let me down.Hammer kits are designed to work together with all the components that come with them. Ive also had a basic kit and a 90 HP kit. The 120 HP kit is designed to be as reliable as well. But you can abuse and run the hell out of anything. Aaron and Dan have the best performance Sportster company out there in my opinion. Madnss is a racer and has a 120+ HP bike. He has been a Hammer customer for a long time. Just decide how much power you want and go for it. Hammer does not make an un rideable monster.
 

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The 100+ kit is smoother than stock and is reliable as stock. It will rev to 7400 RPM damn quick. The bike is fast. It does not over heat. Starts and sounds like a Sportster. Its what I have now. I ride this bike several times a week. It has never broke or let me down.Hammer kits are designed to work together with all the components that come with them. Ive also had a basic kit and a 90 HP kit. The 120 HP kit is designed to be as reliable as well. But you can abuse and run the hell out of anything. Aaron and Dan have the best performance Sportster company out there in my opinion. Madnss is a racer and has a 120+ HP bike. He has been a Hammer customer for a long time. Just decide how much power you want and go for it. Hammer does not make an un rideable monster.
Basically I want to know if l have to go with new cams and headwork or if just adding the bigger jugs and pistons will wake up my engine. Guess I should talk to the guys at Hammer! Thanks for the replies! I'm a newbe to these new fangled engines!
 
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Basically I want to know if l have to go with new cams and headwork or if just adding the bigger jugs and pistons will wake up my engine. Guess I should talk to the guys at Hammer! Thanks for the replies! I'm a newbe to these new fangled engines!
Hey Billy, I went with the basic conversion and it definitely wakes your bike up. The power increase is huge from a stock 883. Having said that, I wish I would have done the 90hp kit from Hammer. I think most people would be completely satisfied with the basic conversion (I am for the most part), I just want a bit more for getting away from the cagers, hahaha
 
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Basic conversion is A ok!!! I’m just obsessed so I have a 120 plus hp street 1250 and race 1275
 
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Hey Billy, I went with the basic conversion and it definitely wakes your bike up. The power increase is huge from a stock 883. Having said that, I wish I would have done the 90hp kit from Hammer. I think most people would be completely satisfied with the basic conversion (I am for the most part), I just want a bit more for getting away from the cagers, hahaha
This is for my 2007 1200 Low. I'm thinking about the 90hp kit.
 
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This is for my 2007 1200 Low. I'm thinking about the 90hp kit.
Let me know how it goes, I have a 2007 1200 Low as well.
 

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