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Old May 19, 2019 | 06:16 AM
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I have a 2008 nightster. Bought it used with a stage 1. Has a screaming eagle heavy breather and V&H exhaust. When cruising at low speeds (40mph) I have to be in 3rd gear. If I put it in 4th gear at 40mph it starts lugging like it’s going to stall for going too slow for that gear. It does the same thing at 25mph in 2nd, 30mph in 3rd, 40mph in 4th, and 55-60 in 5th.

The lugging feeling that happens is like when you try and take off in 2nd from a stop and it vibrates and acts like it’s going to stall.

The shop I take my bike to for everything told me that the previous owner probably did the stage one but didn’t tune it and that it’s running too lean as well.

Could that be the reason why it does this or am I doing something wrong?
 

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Don't know if your bike has a tach. If it feels like it's lugging it probably is. I like to keep mine above 2000 all the time, 2500 if under load.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 07:59 AM
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Are you shifting bike by "gears" vs. RPM? Don't think of it as 1st gear to 10mph, 2nd gear to 20 mph, etc...

Need to go by "feel" not mph...run gears and shift at ~2500 - 3000 rpm...even if you don't have tachometer - you can tell when to shift.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 08:01 AM
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Probably the tune. You should think about a FP3.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Randol
Don't know if your bike has a tach. If it feels like it's lugging it probably is. I like to keep mine above 2000 all the time, 2500 if under load.
I don’t have a tach but should get one. I shift by sound and what feels right. But I’ll still get it checked out since it might need a tune. Thanks!
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman24
Are you shifting bike by "gears" vs. RPM? Don't think of it as 1st gear to 10mph, 2nd gear to 20 mph, etc...

Need to go by "feel" not mph...run gears and shift at ~2500 - 3000 rpm...even if you don't have tachometer - you can tell when to shift.
I don’t shift by rpm since I don’t have a tach and since I got the bike I’ve been shifting by “feel” and what sounds right like you said. But the past month i don’t know why I’ve been paying attention to the mph per gear. I never had that mentality with my previous 3 bikes until now and it’s probably what’s making me think something is wrong with the bike with the stage 1 but never probably tuned.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:36 AM
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Seeing this all the time around here. They put on pipes, air filter then have driveability problems. You should be able to go down to 1500 rpms and stay in gear or cruise. I have 97 bored out to 1200 with stage 1 kit rejetted carb no problems at 40 mph in 4th.
you have a driveability problem, you have 2 choices , 1 go back to stock or retune it.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben221
Probably the tune. You should think about a FP3.
I’ve actually been saving for one but since the shop quoted me to do a dyno tune for around the same price as the fp3 I’m going to save up a bit more money for the dyno tune.
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by normannewguy
Seeing this all the time around here. They put on pipes, air filter then have driveability problems. You should be able to go down to 1500 rpms and stay in gear or cruise. I have 97 bored out to 1200 with stage 1 kit rejetted carb no problems at 40 mph in 4th.
you have a driveability problem, you have 2 choices , 1 go back to stock or retune it.
I knew something felt wrong! I’m going to save up a bit more money get it dyno tuned for sure. Thanks!
 
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Old May 19, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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I knew something felt wrong! I’m going to save up a bit more money get it dyno tuned for sure. Thanks!
Don't wait very long, or limit driving on it. If you are running very lean the engine will run hot with all the damage that goes with it, burnt valves, melted pistons etc. Will it happen maybe? but who wants to risk it. Saw this all the time during 90's as cars became fuel injected with very specific fuel maps, (speed density just like hd is now). Pipes etc, car would run slower less HP and with engine damage
 
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