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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 03:46 PM
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What comes out the crankcase vent is mostly exhaust that went past the rings instead of out the exhaust port. Along with oil and water it picks up in it's travels through the crankcase. All internal combustion motors have at least some blow-by, no matter how good the ring seal. Minimal outflow from the crankcase vent indicates good ring seal. In these motors, it also indicates the check valves are working correctly, because the crankcases are variable volume and without check valves, you get an inhalation/exhalation thing going on.
Were not talking about the crankcase vent here . Have a look at the red arrow on the OP's photograph .
 

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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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Yes we are. They vent to the heads and back into the intake or out side the heads if you have put an external kit on.
 

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Originally Posted by apache snow
As said they equalize the pressure in the crank case as the pistons go up and down. What little in there gets mixed with condensation in the crank case and is expelled out the breathers. If you get bad rings the oil vapor will build up as blow by and that can become a problem. You would almost have to over fill the oil tank to the very top to be a problem Disregarding what you hear over the internet.
No , that's what the crankcase vent is for . We are talking about the hollow bolts in the Rocker Boxes that vent into the air filter on a standard bike . There are photographs of them in the OP .
 
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 03:53 PM
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Dang that's where the crank case vents. Just like the PCV on a car.
 
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Originally Posted by apache snow
Yes we are. They vent to the heads and back into the intake or out side the heads if you have put an external kit on.
Correct ! That's what this thread is about . It is not about the CRANKCASE VENT which is tucked away behind the starter motor .
 
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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by apache snow
Dang that's where the crank case vents. Just like the PCV on a car.
No , that's where the Rocker Boxes are vented . The crankcase vent is on top of the crankcase ( unsurprisingly ) somewhere behind the starter motor .
 
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You are 100 % incorrect. I believe you are talking about the transmission vent. The crank case vents out the rocker boxes. Do you think aswracing who is Hammer Peformance wouldn't know that.

As the pistons go up and down they create pressure in the crank case. To relieve this pressure its vented to the rocker boxes where it is metered out through the umbrella valves in the rocker boxes. They are designed to let air out but not lest it suck air back in.

 

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Old Mar 11, 2020 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by apache snow
You are 100 % incorrect. I believe you are talking about the transmission vent. The crank case vents out the rocker boxes. Do you think aswracing who is Hammer Peformance wouldn't know that.

As the pistons go up and down they create pressure in the crank case. To relieve this pressure its vented to the rocker boxes where it is metered out through the umbrella valves in the rocker boxes. They are designed to let air out but not lest it suck air back in.
And you are 100 % correct and I , not for the first time , have got it all ​​​​​WRONG . Please accept my sincere apologies . As you rightly say the , the thing that I assumed to be a crankcase vent is actually the transmission vent . So sorry .
 
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Saw this.....
 
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And you are 100 % correct and I , not for the first time , have got it all ​​​​​WRONG . Please accept my sincere apologies . As you rightly say the , the thing that I assumed to be a crankcase vent is actually the transmission vent . So sorry .
Its OK You know now. Kick back and have a beer.
 
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