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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 06:58 PM
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It stands to reason that if your 883 is running out of gear it'll still be running out of gear with a 1275 kit
 
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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This is the info on gearing. Note, this is directly from Hammer Performance website. I recommend anyone interested in upgrading their engine, spend some time there reading and you will learn a lot.
  1. Should I change my 883's gearing when I do a conversion? What are my options?
    • The vast majority of conversions are done without a change to the gearing. It's completely optional.
    • The advantage of the shorter 883 gearing is quicker acceleration.
    • The advantage of the taller 1200 gearing is reduced engine rpm at highway speeds.
    • If you have a 1991-2003 model:
      • 91-03 XL883 and XL1200 models share the same primary gearing: 35T front sprocket and 56T clutch basket.
      • However, the final drive differs. Belt drive 883 models came with a 27T front sprocket and 1200's came with a 29T front sprocket. Both models came with a 61T rear sprocket.
      • Changing your 883 to the 29T front final drive sprocket will result in a 7% reduction in rpm at any given speed. So for example, if you're turning 3000rpm now, at that same speed you'll be turning about 2800rpm after changing to the 29T sprocket
    • If you have a 2004+ model:
      • 2004+ XL883 models have a 34T front primary sprocket and 2004+ XL1200 models have a 38T front primary sprocket. Both models have a 57T clutch basket.
      • XL883 models from 2004-2010 came from HD with a 28T front final drive sprocket, and 2011+ came with a 29T front final drive sprocket.
      • 2004+ XL1200 models came from HD with a 29T front final drive sprocket.
      • HD also offered a 30T front final drive sprocket on certain international models.
      • All 2004+ models, 883 and 1200, came from HD with a 68T rear final drive sprocket.
      • Here are all the possible gearing combinations with factory sprockets, in order of shortest to tallest:
        • (57/34) x (68/28) = 4.07 overall in top gear (stock 2004-2010 XL883)
        • (57/34) x (68/29) = 3.93 overall in top gear (stock 2011+ XL883)
        • (57/34) x (68/30) = 3.80 overall in top gear (XL883 primary with HDI final)
        • (57/38) x (68/28) = 3.64 overall in top gear (XL1200 primary with 2004-2010 XL883 final)
        • (57/38) x (68/29) = 3.51 overall in top gear (stock 2004+ XL1200)
        • (57/38) x (68/30) = 3.40 overall in top gear (Stock 2004+ 1200 primary with HDI final)
      • From the shortest combination above, to the tallest, you would reduce your rpm at any given speed by about 16%, which is a LOT. For example, if you're turning 3000rpm now with the shortest combination, you'd be turning only 2500rpm at that same speed with the tallest combination
 
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 07:31 PM
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All I did was replace my crank gear and primary chain. You have to pull the primary cover no matter what on the newer bikes or you'll smoke the clutch.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 09:16 PM
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Based off the seat of my pants riding my 22 I'm going to 100% agree with these dyno numbers and curve shapes. Also note how easily it pulled away from just off idle in 5th

https://www.cycleworld.com/2016/02/0...ormance-chart/
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 06:41 AM
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Also note how easily it pulled away from just off idle in 5th
Noted in my notes!!!! You should try that on the road!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Garry Sr
Hope you're good at speed shifting because you'll need it

Im not even sure what this is….
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 06:51 AM
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883 gearing here. At WOT I don’t go into 5th until over 120mph…

It’s damn nice for the performance minded folks that are turning more RPMs than stock. 1200 gearing is quite lacking for some of us.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 07:31 AM
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I guess the insanity will never end.....
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 07:41 AM
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I'll be cruising down the highway while you guys pretend to be drag racers
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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I'm telling you guys right now the 1200 gearing still isn't that great on the highway it's just better than the 883
 
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