I remember at the beginning of the year the prices dropped on alot of upper endmodels.. Looking at what prices are at now and there is an increase on Sportsters, $10185 for a two tone 1200N..$200 is a big jump in just one year. You would think with sales being flat and with the temporary lay-off that are going on at HD, they would try to keep pricesthe sameor even shoot for a decrease to bump sales up.

 

It's because the dollar keeps falling. The Euro is now the preferred paper as the dollar has fallen well below the rest. Most oil countries are no longer accepting dollars for oil and dumping them for other currency that is worth more.

Last I heard, the dollar was worth .74 cents.......

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Translation: Why do I have to "Press 1 for English"?

Translation: If Israel didn't exist, would we still fight for it?

Curious that you put these sentiments in German, rather than English. Although, you apprently agree that it's the perfect language for them. Especially for com-plaints about Isarel. After all, German is still the best language around for airing complaints about the Joooooooos!

How ironic that you put your complaint about having to make an extra effort to be served in English...in a foreign language. Perhaps you'd like a third option: "Druecken Sie bitte drei fuer Deutsch."

Just out of curiousity, can you--not the other members, you--explain the mechanism whereby the dollar's fall in the FOREX market raises domestic prices? I mean, I can, I have a degree in this stuff, I'm just wondering what you believe the mechanism is.

 

Sportster prices rose about $200 across the board for the 2008 models. The Softail and Touring models also went up. More interesting to me, however, is how much the cost of Dyna models dropped for the 08 model year:

07 black Super Glide = $12,395 08 black Super Glide = $11,995
07 Super Glide Custom = $14,645 08 Super Glide Custom = $12,995 ($1650 less)
07 Dyna Low = $15,795 08 Dyna Low = $14995

I thought these prices represented some significant decreases. The only Dyna model that increased in price (up $200) was the Street Bob. The Street Bob has certainly been the most popular Dyna in the last two years (newer model, stands to reason). I wonder if the increase in Sportster prices is also representative of anincrease in popularity.

Looks like Dale has a handle on the arian in our midst. For once, I'll shut my mouth and try to stay out of that one (no guarantees though). [8D]

 

press 3? i dont know. everything goes up. im not surprised. remember matchbox cars? when i was a kid they where 1 buck each....remember that? guess what. they still are a buck each, 25 years ago i paid the same as my kids, but they are mostly plastic now with no moving parts, curiously though like the kid stated the dyna is cheaper now. go figure

 

Mr. Franks

I place the money problem on the Federal Reserve (a privately owned entity as you know). It's control over money and how much profit can be made on it's worthless paper.
When money (gold and silver) was replaced with paper, money became worthless. Our government putting the countries money in the hands of "private enterprise" was a grave mistake and the proof is in the worthless dollar.

"Druecken Sie bitte drei fuer Deutsch."

Yes, 3 for German would be nice, 4 for French, 5 for Italian, 6 for Chinese.
Why do we, as an English speaking nation have to press anything to speak in another language? For me it's a very negative thing to put up with the language of the current illegal invasion force now upon us.

As for using German, it happens to be my language and I'm "offended" that Spanish is available and not the other languages too. I amended my sig to make YOU happy.


What "complaint" was made about Israel? I asked a simple question based on the fact that Israel is an illegal state under the 4th Geneva Convention.



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"For me it's a very negative thing to put up with the language of the current illegal invasion force now upon us".
You want an option to hear German, the language of a country who tried to invade half the world (but failed), WTF!
FU and your sig.\
Vete mucho ala verga!

 

Ah. I see. So, you don't know. Let's take a closer look, shall we?

If you believe the Federal reserve to be a private entity, then you, sir, are an economic crank. There's simply not a diplomatic way to put that.

The Federal Reserve is a federal government agency, established by public law, whose chief officers are appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate for a fixed term. In return for the Fed's nominal independence in setting monetary policy, the Fed chairman--a presidential appointee--is required by law (the Humphrey-Hawkins Act) to present formal testimony to congress twice a year on the Fed's monetary policy. The Fed is funded through the regulatory fees it charges to federally-chartered banks, and, to a much lesser extent, the interest payments made from purchases of short-term securities by those banks. It is an arm of the federal government, not a privtate agency or corporation.

That you believe something different is a sign of serious economic misunderstanding.

Money is not a store of value. It is merely a medium of exchange. To the extent that any item--paper, seashells, or shiny rocks--is universally accepted as an exchange for goods or services, it is money. Yes, the Fed does a mediocre job of fighting inflation. Gold, on the other hand, has at various times and places, done as bad or worse. I refer you to 15th century Spain, and the huge bout of inflation that swept Europe due to Spanish importation of gold from the new world. Moreover, a cursory look at the economic history of the United States shows that, under the gold standard, the nation was rocked by a Great Depression every 20 to 40 years.

Inflation or deflation is merely the result of the difference between the supply of money an its demand. When the supply outstrips demand, inflation results. And when the demand outstrips the supply, deflation results. Under the gold standard, the inflexibility of gold as a money supply led to crippling bouts of deflation every generation.

In any event, let's return to the question I raised, and give you the correct answer.

As foreign nations with which we trade convert the dollars they make from selling in the US back into their own currencies, the demand for the dollar falls in the FOREX market, while the demand for the foreign currency rises. This causes the price of the dollar to fall in foreign trade, so that the dollar buys less than before. So, if an American business, like, say, motorcycle manufacturing, imports parts for their motorcycles, the price of those imported parts rise as the value of the dollar falls. In other words, as the price of the dollar falls in the FOREX, imports become more expensive. As a result, if an "American" product is made using foreign parts, that product will become more expensive, due to the rise in price of the foreign parts.

Prices for goods that are made entirely in the United States are not--repeat not affected by the dollar's value in foreign exchange.

You have, in essence, confused the phenomenon of currency exchange with domestic inflation. They are two entirely different things.

Ah. Sorry.

 

Nice that you resort to "name calling". "crank"? Why do some people resort to name calling when someone has a differing opinion?

You believe what you want, I'll believe what I want.

I stopped reading your "book" when you stated that the Federal Reserve is not a private entity, which it most certainly is.

My "complaint" was not about Israel as much as about Americans dying (the main subject of my statement) for a country that is murdering and stealing land that was taken from it's indegenous people in 1946 and setup as the State of Israel. All because "their god said it was their land".
That sir, is against the 4th Geneva Convention. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...s/geneva1.html

I have no problem with people using other languages in "forums". My statement had to do with having to Dial 1 for English on the phone. Where is the "Dial one for French" or "German" or "Italian"? Why is "Spanish" the only one in a English speaking country? I do not want to learn another language. I have enough trouble with English.

What has this to do with the prices of Harley Davidsons anyhow?
I am through with this thread.


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