Stage 1 Question
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Stage 1 Question
I bought a '08 Nightster last July. It has the V&\\;H Straight Shots. I bought it just as it sat on the show room floor. Any way I was on a poker run this past weekend and one of the guys that was with us told me I had the Stage 1 already done to mine. This was not mentioned to me when I got it. So my question is, is the programmer normally a part of the stage 1 \\;when it is a dealer install. I asked the dealer that we all met at and they said that it is included at their shop and the think it is at most. I haven't had a chance to pull that paper work yet to see if it says anything about it. But they also said that I should have gotten a plug type thing that would go to it which I did not. What do you guys think? If it turns out that I do have the programmer what happens now since I was not given the plug thing for it?
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RE: Stage 1 Question
Stage one, is just a SE aircleaner and a reprogram flash of the ECM. The reflash is just that they download different settings to your control module to adjust for the free breathing air cleaner and addition of free flowing pipes. If they had done this with a SERT "screaming eagle race tuner" you would or should have recieved a little interface module, \\; the reflash is 149.00 the sert is over 400.00, so its not hard to figure out which one you got unless they charged you for it.
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RE: Stage 1 Question
Stage 1 is free flowing air cleaner, free flowing exhaust/mufflers and an upgraded ignition. Of course you need to adjust air/fuel mixture by rejetting carb or flashing computer if EFI.
Just adding a free flowing air cleaner and exhaust muffler without an upgraded ignition is a Stage .5. This is paying taxes.
This has always been my understanding.
Just adding a free flowing air cleaner and exhaust muffler without an upgraded ignition is a Stage .5. This is paying taxes.
This has always been my understanding.
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RE: Stage 1 Question
"paying the tax" is what its called when you change out the exhaust and airbreather so that your bike runs cooler and better. It also includes the carb rejet or the ECM reflash. this is also referred to as stage .5
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RE: Stage 1 Question
I bought an '05 1200 \\;XLR a few months ago that has what appears to be an upgraded airbox and pipes. \\;It runs great at high RPM, but not great at lower speed. It doesn't pull smoothly from 2k as my previous 883 Sporty Hugger did, but shakes and shudders til 3K. I went from a # 42 to a #45 pilot jet, with three turns out on the mixture screw, \\;but it seems to have had minimal effect, if any at all. I'm wondering if I should have gone larger, say a #48?
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Road Warrior
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RE: Stage 1 Question
are you running open pipes without baffles? If you are, thats the reason for the shitty low end.
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