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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Question Progressives vs Harley shock kit?

My wife has gotten SPOILED on our new Deluxe and says that unless I change out the seat and shocks on the Sportster, she won't ride it anymore. So obviously...I can't win this battle and need to get new shocks and a seat. I'm thinking about getting the Sundowner seat????? Also, can you guys tell me anything about the HD Rear Shock kit (see below) vs the Progressives? And if you pick the Progressives, can you tell me which ones and where to get them? Thanks?
Two-Up ProfileŽ Low Rear Shock Kit - (54704-07)

These heavy-duty shocks are tuned for the touring rider carrying a passenger or loaded saddlebags. Shock length and spring rate are engineered to maintain the factory low seat height. The chrome-bodied shocks feature adjustable preload for a comfortable, controlled ride.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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It depends entirely upon your preferences.

Some folks like the air shocks off Road Kings, others like high end performance shocks, others want economical springs, others don't mind dropping $500 on shocks, some like long shocks, others want to lower the bike.

Personally, I would not recommend Harley shocks for anything other than paper weights. Progressives are very good and there are several options to choose from.

What kind of weight are you throwing on the bike and what is your riding style?

About the seat... I have a very unpopular and unfavorable opinion on the off the shelf "custom" seats that are so prevalent here. *wink*
 
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Originally Posted by Bacon_Grease
It depends entirely upon your preferences.

Some folks like the air shocks off Road Kings, others like high end performance shocks, others want economical springs, others don't mind dropping $500 on shocks, some like long shocks, others want to lower the bike.

Personally, I would not recommend Harley shocks for anything other than paper weights. Progressives are very good and there are several options to choose from.

What kind of weight are you throwing on the bike and what is your riding style?

About the seat... I have a very unpopular and unfavorable opinion on the off the shelf "custom" seats that are so prevalent here. *wink*
Bacon - Well weight wise, it's probably about 200lbs solo and about 275lbs when it's 2up (a kid). As for cost, I just want to get the right shock that will make her happy. She's use to the soft ride of the Softail now. I'm not looking for the cheapest answer. Only thing I want is to keep the bike as low as possible.

As for the seat...I take it you don't like the Sundowner and would recommend...the Mustang?
 
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I don't mean to sound negative here, but the Low already has short (travel) shocks which makes for less than a comfy ride, and needing to maintain the low height doesn't help. Add to that the need to haul 275 lbs. which puts you into a heavy duty class shock and you do have a challenge. I don't care how great the shock is, if it has limited travel, it's not going to ride well.

I'd say start looking at air shocks and/or see if ya can't get by with some taller (12.5") Progressive shocks. Get her some boots with taller soles/heels.

ON SECOND THOUGHT, She takes the Deluxe and you get the Sporty.
 

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The Mustang is a good seat.

As far as shocks, as long as you are willing to spent for quality, I would skip on Progressive and HD.

You might try looking at Race Tech, YSS, Works Performance, Ohlin, or Penske for shocks and Ricor and Race Tech for the forks.
http://www.racetech.com/page.aspx?id=59&menuid=67
http://www.yssusa.com/
http://www.worksperformance.com/html/home.html
http://www.ohlins.com/Motorcycle/tabid/53/Default.aspx
http://www.motorcyclemetal.com/
http://store.ricorshocks.com/
 
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Originally Posted by cHarley
I'd say start looking at air shocks and/or see if ya can't get by with some taller (12.5") Progressive shocks. Get her some boots with taller soles/heels.

ON SECOND THOUGHT, She takes the Deluxe and you get the Sporty.
How much higher will the 12.5" shocks raise the bike? Also, a Mustang seat or Sundowner will also raise it right? So with both additions, how much higher will it be?

Originally Posted by icecaps
The Mustang is a good seat.

As far as shocks, as long as you are willing to spent for quality, I would skip on Progressive and HD.

You might try looking at Race Tech, YSS, Works Performance, Ohlin, or Penske for shocks and Ricor and Race Tech for the forks.
http://www.racetech.com/page.aspx?id=59&menuid=67
http://www.yssusa.com/
http://www.worksperformance.com/html/home.html
http://www.ohlins.com/Motorcycle/tabid/53/Default.aspx
http://www.motorcyclemetal.com/
http://store.ricorshocks.com/
I haven't even considered any of these. But I'm going to do some research on them all now! Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by cHarley
I don't mean to sound negative here, but the Low already has short (travel) shocks which makes for less than a comfy ride, and needing to maintain the low height doesn't help. Add to that the need to haul 275 lbs. which puts you into a heavy duty class shock and you do have a challenge.

I'd say start looking at air shocks and/or see if ya can't get by with some taller (12.5") Progressive shocks. Get her some boots with taller soles/heels.
Those are my thoughts...

Longer shocks may suck at stop lights, but when you're moving there's nothing like the luxury of extra travel and cornering clearance.

Air shocks, though, I'm not sold on. They can be quite comfortable, but I have not been impressed with their handling characteristics. I removed them from my Goldwing because I did not care for the handling.

But, there are a large number of people here running RoadKing air shocks that are very happy with them, so they are not all bad.


JBG,

Regarding seats - I am of the opinion that saddles are not something to compromise on. Either go after aesthetics or comfort, not both. Also, in order to get a saddle that is really comfortable, it must be built to the rider and passenger. The off the shelf "custom" saddles are made for generic shape and size "persons" and not the actual riders and while they are usually significantly better than the stock saddle, they're **** poor compared to a truly custom fit comfort saddle.

Last Sunday, I rode 250 miles without stopping once on my saddle and I did not have one single spot of discomfort, soreness or numbness. Friday, I rode approximately 1,000 miles in one day - again with absolutely no discomfort from the saddle. The Sunday before that, I rode 800 miles in 12 hours and the Friday before that 350 miles stopping only for fuel and bathroom breaks.

I have played with the off the shelf "custom" saddles for years and I can honestly say that not one of them, Mustang, Saddleman or Corbin, comes anywhere close to the all day long comfort of my custom fit saddle. I've ridden 1,000 miles a day on a Saddleman and I'd rather have a root canal from a dentist with shaky hands than do that again.

I recommend Russel DayLong Saddles and here's the link to the saddle when I first installed it. I'm sorting through pictures and I should have a better one tonight.
 
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the shocks on a 883L are in the 10 to 10.5 range so progessive are gonna raise the bike at least 2 inches
 
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Originally Posted by deadhead111469
the shocks on a 883L are in the 10 to 10.5 range so progessive are gonna raise the bike at least 2 inches
Wow... 2" for the shocks and then probably another 1" for a seat is going to be a lot! So would 11.5" shocks be only 1" up?

This brings up another question...do I need to do the front at the same time?

Maybe I'll try just doing either the seat or the shocks and see how that works?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by deadhead111469
the shocks on a 883L are in the 10 to 10.5 range so progessive are gonna raise the bike at least 2 inches
Not exactly. Since the shocks are angled and the seat is not directly over them, 2" increase in shock length will lift the seat less than 1.5" It's all trigonometry and I don't feel like doing the math.

The 15" shocks I'm running only lifted my 1200R's seat about an 1.25" (the R comes with 13" shocks)
 
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