Are stock Nightster pipes very restrictive?
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Get the exhaust first and then worry about the rest as you get money for mods. Exhaust is one of the coolset mods you can do and it's easy. Also who really cares about MPG on a bike? I mean it's a bike with a 3.3 G tank so it's going to do ok. I have the 3.3 G tank and my fuel light comes on around 90-100 Miles or if i ride hard it comes on at about 85 miles.
oinker, yeah I didn't want to use a piggyback unit either.
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It really all boils down to priorities....it helps that you have an end goal in mind-that being you intend to eventually swap intake, exhaust, and perhaps more later.
If you were only swapping the intake OR exhaust, then no power commander or tmax would be required.....the OEM intake will restrict the engine airflow, or the OEM exhaust will do the same, so no remapping is really necessary.........However, seeing as how your build plan includes both intake and exhaust, then the fueler will be required as soon as you move past either the intake or exhaust.
I'm not saying the Tmax is better, just voicing it's advantages(no extra hardware or wires to hide)...on my bagger, I have places to hide extra hardware and wires, but not on my sportys......I am very pleased with how my power commander has performed, but want to add autotune and there simply is no place to properly hide the autotune modules on my '07 1200C show scoot....there is absolutely no place to hade anything on my 2010 Iron-not even a power commander....so far Tmax is the only guys who make a quality device that will fit hidden on any 2010 sporty.
If you were only swapping the intake OR exhaust, then no power commander or tmax would be required.....the OEM intake will restrict the engine airflow, or the OEM exhaust will do the same, so no remapping is really necessary.........However, seeing as how your build plan includes both intake and exhaust, then the fueler will be required as soon as you move past either the intake or exhaust.
I'm not saying the Tmax is better, just voicing it's advantages(no extra hardware or wires to hide)...on my bagger, I have places to hide extra hardware and wires, but not on my sportys......I am very pleased with how my power commander has performed, but want to add autotune and there simply is no place to properly hide the autotune modules on my '07 1200C show scoot....there is absolutely no place to hade anything on my 2010 Iron-not even a power commander....so far Tmax is the only guys who make a quality device that will fit hidden on any 2010 sporty.
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oinker02, I agree totally with not wanting a piggyback system/added hardware to hide, and I have read up on almost all the other tuners out there, now i'm no expert, but as far as being almost plug and run, the TMax + autotune seemed like the best option, at least to me.
I'll be doing the TMax+autotune, and Samson street sweepers, and then in a few months i'll upgrade the breather.
Thanks for the prompt feedback all.
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I'll be doing the TMax+autotune, and Samson street sweepers, and then in a few months i'll upgrade the breather.
Thanks for the prompt feedback all.
kind regards,
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I'm going to caution you upfront, the Tmax is a true study.....I strongly suggest you go now to their site and print out thier complete instruction and tuning manual, then go ahead and download and install their software...play with the software and read the manual front to back, the read it again....It will prepare you for the day it finally shows up in the mail...and you will get off with a clean and painless install perhaps the first time.
You might at first think it is too complicated to master once you read the huge manual...but trust me, it's not......The GUI(software) is extremely powerful, but at first seems not so user friendly....That's only because it allows you to do so very much compared to many other fuelers....just take it one step at a time and you will master it with confidence.
oh....also go ahead and order their proprietary USB to serial port interface cable.....not all, in fact few, off-the-shelf serial to USB convertor cables will work-theirs will.
By the way, what year is your sporty?
You might at first think it is too complicated to master once you read the huge manual...but trust me, it's not......The GUI(software) is extremely powerful, but at first seems not so user friendly....That's only because it allows you to do so very much compared to many other fuelers....just take it one step at a time and you will master it with confidence.
oh....also go ahead and order their proprietary USB to serial port interface cable.....not all, in fact few, off-the-shelf serial to USB convertor cables will work-theirs will.
By the way, what year is your sporty?
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oinker02, I have a 2009 Nightster. I am pleased with the stock performance behavior (no pops, smooth accel etc), I am hoping it behaves the same with the mods, just a bit more power 
I work in the computer field so i think i'll be able to grasp the software etc. and I have been reading install manual all that suff, and all the info from FuelMoto site etc.
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I work in the computer field so i think i'll be able to grasp the software etc. and I have been reading install manual all that suff, and all the info from FuelMoto site etc.
kind regards,
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