Helmets!
Just live with knowing all DOT helmets are going to give you the mushroom head look. I know I haven't found one yet, and I've got like five or six different ones laying on my bar at home that were all listed as "the smallest DOT helmets on the market". The only one I haven't tried yet is the ACC Carbon helmets that keep going from DOT approved to not being DOT approved. I still mainly throw on my novelty. Wear what you want..........cause I'm not going to get into the whole helmet debate and tell you what to wear like these other jackwagons livin in mamby-pamby land. 
Darwinism is too slow a process
Though, I agree that the government has no right telling people that they have to wear a helmet.
Though, I agree that the government has no right telling people that they have to wear a helmet.
Somebody watches too many GEICO ads.
I hate my full face because I cannot hear or see as well out of it...at all. It is like it has a 'blind spot' and I really have to turn my head to make sure I haven't lost a car over there. I also cannot hear a car near as well that is coming up behind me.
When the state took away the choice. It became a matter of rebellion. What bikers excel at.
maybe if the state tells you that you aren't allowed to wear a FF helmet, all the badass rebellious bikers will make a point of wearing one. This works with my two year old. If I tell him NOT to sit down in his chair, he then wants to sit down.
Then again, I don't want my kid getting hurt. I guess as a grown up, you should have the right to get hurt if you want.
Check out some of your local/state motor vehicle laws dealing with wearing 'full face' helmets in cars and/or trucks.
In most jurisdictions it is illegal....
The main reason it is against the law; "impaired vision"....
Go figure.
But anyway, each to their own when it comes to helmets... I've been riding Harley's since 1970 and average a conservative 20,000 miles a year. That's a lot of miles if you do the math. I also don't wear a helmet, except when I might be passing through a state where they are "required" and I know that the law is enforced.
But in most of the States where I travel the most (such as Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Texas) helmets aren't mandated by Big Brother so it is a non-issue.
I can't stand to wear a helmet, as I like the wind and the elements.
But each to their own....
In most jurisdictions it is illegal....
The main reason it is against the law; "impaired vision"....
Go figure.

But anyway, each to their own when it comes to helmets... I've been riding Harley's since 1970 and average a conservative 20,000 miles a year. That's a lot of miles if you do the math. I also don't wear a helmet, except when I might be passing through a state where they are "required" and I know that the law is enforced.
But in most of the States where I travel the most (such as Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Texas) helmets aren't mandated by Big Brother so it is a non-issue.
I can't stand to wear a helmet, as I like the wind and the elements.
But each to their own....
Who do you suppose was the only stupid looking guy out 8 bikers on our way to Sturgis a couple years ago?????
Last edited by Blackcherry Low; Jan 4, 2011 at 12:49 PM.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/p...verview.html#5
http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/811280.pdf
It really is amazing that so much misinformation is still flying around about helmets. The two above pdf's from the NHTSA might clear some things up:
You have a 36% likelihood of facial injury in a motorcycle accident.
You are more likely to suffer a neck injury without a helmet than by wearing one.
You are twice as likely to suffer a fatal head injury by not wearing a helmet.
Of the riders to suffer a head injury while not wearing a DOT approved helmet less than 20% had sufficient (or any) medical insurance. The remainder of the medicals bills are paid the government and the insurance companies (higher rates for the insured)
Full face helmets if fitted properly do not adversely impact vision or hearing.
Over 80% of motorcyclist involved in accidents had improper or no eye protection which probably contributed to reduction in accident avoidance time.
These aren't opinions, they are statistical facts. Argue them all you like but you cannot change them.
Wearing a non-DOT in a state that requires a DOT helmet isn't rebellious, it is deceptive. If you wanted to rebel, you would wear no helmet. The choice not to wear a proper protective helmet is not a choice of personal rights or rebellion, it is a choice for vanity and perhaps comfort. More riders are concerned with their appearance ("I look like a mushroom head") than personal safety. This is an arrogant and selfish position. If they do injure themselves then it is the tax payer and the insurance premium payer left holding the majority of the medical bills and the injured families left without a loved one.
As far as "rights" go, you have no right to operate a motorcycle on public roads, nor the right to operate one without a helmet. The operation of any vehicle on a public road is a privilege granted by the State through compact with the citizens. We pay the taxes and he States creates and maintains roads to be used by individuals meeting the contract the State and citizens agreed upon. Speed limits, right of way, safety belts are all part of the contract. The roads are public but not owned by the citizen directly, you use them at the State's discretion. Thus to use them you most follow they law.
If the law allows and you have the financial security to afford the results of an accident, then by all means, ride with your do-rag proudly.
If you want the privilege of riding without a helmet then make sure yourself and your fellow riders have enough insurance and / or money to secure health care in the event of an accident. Wear protective eye gear at a minimum to help accident avoidance. Take a a motorcycle safety course to enhance your accident avoidance skills.
flame away.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/811280.pdf
It really is amazing that so much misinformation is still flying around about helmets. The two above pdf's from the NHTSA might clear some things up:
You have a 36% likelihood of facial injury in a motorcycle accident.
You are more likely to suffer a neck injury without a helmet than by wearing one.
You are twice as likely to suffer a fatal head injury by not wearing a helmet.
Of the riders to suffer a head injury while not wearing a DOT approved helmet less than 20% had sufficient (or any) medical insurance. The remainder of the medicals bills are paid the government and the insurance companies (higher rates for the insured)
Full face helmets if fitted properly do not adversely impact vision or hearing.
Over 80% of motorcyclist involved in accidents had improper or no eye protection which probably contributed to reduction in accident avoidance time.
These aren't opinions, they are statistical facts. Argue them all you like but you cannot change them.
Wearing a non-DOT in a state that requires a DOT helmet isn't rebellious, it is deceptive. If you wanted to rebel, you would wear no helmet. The choice not to wear a proper protective helmet is not a choice of personal rights or rebellion, it is a choice for vanity and perhaps comfort. More riders are concerned with their appearance ("I look like a mushroom head") than personal safety. This is an arrogant and selfish position. If they do injure themselves then it is the tax payer and the insurance premium payer left holding the majority of the medical bills and the injured families left without a loved one.
As far as "rights" go, you have no right to operate a motorcycle on public roads, nor the right to operate one without a helmet. The operation of any vehicle on a public road is a privilege granted by the State through compact with the citizens. We pay the taxes and he States creates and maintains roads to be used by individuals meeting the contract the State and citizens agreed upon. Speed limits, right of way, safety belts are all part of the contract. The roads are public but not owned by the citizen directly, you use them at the State's discretion. Thus to use them you most follow they law.
If the law allows and you have the financial security to afford the results of an accident, then by all means, ride with your do-rag proudly.
If you want the privilege of riding without a helmet then make sure yourself and your fellow riders have enough insurance and / or money to secure health care in the event of an accident. Wear protective eye gear at a minimum to help accident avoidance. Take a a motorcycle safety course to enhance your accident avoidance skills.
flame away.
Because the commie state makes you. Thus the sticker on the back of my skid lid.
Its not a matter of safety. Its a matter of choice.
When the state took away the choice. It became a matter of rebellion. What bikers excel at.
Even tho they will never give We the People our right to choose back. ABATE has made them define what a helmet is.
A hard shell with a strap that attaches under the chin.
So here DOT means nothing here.
Its not a matter of safety. Its a matter of choice.
When the state took away the choice. It became a matter of rebellion. What bikers excel at.
Even tho they will never give We the People our right to choose back. ABATE has made them define what a helmet is.
A hard shell with a strap that attaches under the chin.
So here DOT means nothing here.
easier to complain than try to change a law.


