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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WVHogRider
Just live with knowing all DOT helmets are going to give you the mushroom head look. I know I haven't found one yet, and I've got like five or six different ones laying on my bar at home that were all listed as "the smallest DOT helmets on the market". The only one I haven't tried yet is the ACC Carbon helmets that keep going from DOT approved to not being DOT approved. I still mainly throw on my novelty. Wear what you want..........cause I'm not going to get into the whole helmet debate and tell you what to wear like these other jackwagons livin in mamby-pamby land.
Have you seen the pic of the ACC helmet from the dude that went down at like 65 mph and ended up in some sort of a drainage\gravel filled ditch. That helmet took some serious impact and held together, person did not have head injuries. The ACC is way better than some normal novelty, that shell is built right, for abuse. Heck they are made to protect rafters heads against rocks.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeD Fred
Its not a matter of safety. Its a matter of choice.
Darwinism is too slow a process

Though, I agree that the government has no right telling people that they have to wear a helmet.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WVHogRider
cause I'm not going to get into the whole helmet debate and tell you what to wear like these other jackwagons livin in mamby-pamby land.
Somebody watches too many GEICO ads.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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Try Vega or Daytona........
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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I hate my full face because I cannot hear or see as well out of it...at all. It is like it has a 'blind spot' and I really have to turn my head to make sure I haven't lost a car over there. I also cannot hear a car near as well that is coming up behind me.
sounds like you don't have properly fitted helmet. Maybe another brand will serve you better. I pretty much wear only one brand, others don't seem to sit right and cause problems for me too.

When the state took away the choice. It became a matter of rebellion. What bikers excel at.

Makes sense. Just like my two year old. I tell him to sit down in his dining room chair, and that makes him just HAVE to stand up, because he's a child and can't stand being told what to do, even when it's obvious he's going to get hurt if he does the opposite.

maybe if the state tells you that you aren't allowed to wear a FF helmet, all the badass rebellious bikers will make a point of wearing one. This works with my two year old. If I tell him NOT to sit down in his chair, he then wants to sit down.

Then again, I don't want my kid getting hurt. I guess as a grown up, you should have the right to get hurt if you want.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Check out some of your local/state motor vehicle laws dealing with wearing 'full face' helmets in cars and/or trucks.

In most jurisdictions it is illegal....

The main reason it is against the law; "impaired vision"....

Go figure.

But anyway, each to their own when it comes to helmets... I've been riding Harley's since 1970 and average a conservative 20,000 miles a year. That's a lot of miles if you do the math. I also don't wear a helmet, except when I might be passing through a state where they are "required" and I know that the law is enforced.

But in most of the States where I travel the most (such as Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Texas) helmets aren't mandated by Big Brother so it is a non-issue.

I can't stand to wear a helmet, as I like the wind and the elements.

But each to their own....


 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Hey, DOT helmets don't look good on my fat head either. I wear it and really don't care what others think. I'm not out there to impress.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Certainteed
just get a fullface. if you look stupid no one will know who you are.

besides you wont get ticketed for it and if you fall off you'll get to keep your pretty smile.

i hate helmets. but i wear a fullface when i have to wear one.
Ha Ha, Too Funny!! I love it, and I too wear a fullface helmet when I have to and probably look stupid, but WTF who cares.

Who do you suppose was the only stupid looking guy out 8 bikers on our way to Sturgis a couple years ago?????
 

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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:41 PM
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http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/p...verview.html#5

http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nti/pdf/811280.pdf

It really is amazing that so much misinformation is still flying around about helmets. The two above pdf's from the NHTSA might clear some things up:

You have a 36% likelihood of facial injury in a motorcycle accident.

You are more likely to suffer a neck injury without a helmet than by wearing one.

You are twice as likely to suffer a fatal head injury by not wearing a helmet.

Of the riders to suffer a head injury while not wearing a DOT approved helmet less than 20% had sufficient (or any) medical insurance. The remainder of the medicals bills are paid the government and the insurance companies (higher rates for the insured)

Full face helmets if fitted properly do not adversely impact vision or hearing.

Over 80% of motorcyclist involved in accidents had improper or no eye protection which probably contributed to reduction in accident avoidance time.

These aren't opinions, they are statistical facts. Argue them all you like but you cannot change them.

Wearing a non-DOT in a state that requires a DOT helmet isn't rebellious, it is deceptive. If you wanted to rebel, you would wear no helmet. The choice not to wear a proper protective helmet is not a choice of personal rights or rebellion, it is a choice for vanity and perhaps comfort. More riders are concerned with their appearance ("I look like a mushroom head") than personal safety. This is an arrogant and selfish position. If they do injure themselves then it is the tax payer and the insurance premium payer left holding the majority of the medical bills and the injured families left without a loved one.

As far as "rights" go, you have no right to operate a motorcycle on public roads, nor the right to operate one without a helmet. The operation of any vehicle on a public road is a privilege granted by the State through compact with the citizens. We pay the taxes and he States creates and maintains roads to be used by individuals meeting the contract the State and citizens agreed upon. Speed limits, right of way, safety belts are all part of the contract. The roads are public but not owned by the citizen directly, you use them at the State's discretion. Thus to use them you most follow they law.

If the law allows and you have the financial security to afford the results of an accident, then by all means, ride with your do-rag proudly.

If you want the privilege of riding without a helmet then make sure yourself and your fellow riders have enough insurance and / or money to secure health care in the event of an accident. Wear protective eye gear at a minimum to help accident avoidance. Take a a motorcycle safety course to enhance your accident avoidance skills.

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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeD Fred
Because the commie state makes you. Thus the sticker on the back of my skid lid.

Its not a matter of safety. Its a matter of choice.

When the state took away the choice. It became a matter of rebellion. What bikers excel at.

Even tho they will never give We the People our right to choose back. ABATE has made them define what a helmet is.
A hard shell with a strap that attaches under the chin.
So here DOT means nothing here.
defeatist bull. if you would educate yourself the least little bit you wouldn't have to pretend to be a rebel. laws can be done away-with. all you gotta do is start reading.

easier to complain than try to change a law.
 
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