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i agree. and in reading this discussion about loud pipes saving lives, i think that loud pipes probably do more harm than good in the minds and respect zones of motorists. maybe only other bikers like loud pipes. pedestrians and cagers most likely have a negative feeeling toward bikers after getting passed by really loud and maybe startling sound.
Last edited by badbs101; Apr 15, 2011 at 12:07 PM.
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From: MN
I'm ridin down the main drag In my cager, A/C blastin,,Stereo on but not
loud,,,
I see a Harley commin up behind me,,,I don't hear jack ****..
He gets next to me,,side by side and I hear His Badass pipes,,
passes me and His pipes vibrate my mirros,,cool,,,
Had a bike cross an Intersection In front of me,,I DID NOT hear him
commin at me,,,only picked up sound as he was very close,,,
He had loud pipes...
So,,How do loud pipes help save lives ???
I guess If yer windows are down an yer payin attention you'd hear em
commin up,,,I can,,
BUT not with the windows up an A/C on.........
So,,How do loud pipes help save lives ???
I'll just keep playin my game,,
What game you ask ??
It's a Trek thing,,, Me an my bike are cloaked,,,Invisible In all circumstanses all the time.
I ride Into positions that they MUST be able to see me when I can
But I assume that they never do see me,,,EVER XD
loud,,,
I see a Harley commin up behind me,,,I don't hear jack ****..
He gets next to me,,side by side and I hear His Badass pipes,,
passes me and His pipes vibrate my mirros,,cool,,,
Had a bike cross an Intersection In front of me,,I DID NOT hear him
commin at me,,,only picked up sound as he was very close,,,
He had loud pipes...
So,,How do loud pipes help save lives ???
I guess If yer windows are down an yer payin attention you'd hear em
commin up,,,I can,,
BUT not with the windows up an A/C on.........
So,,How do loud pipes help save lives ???
I'll just keep playin my game,,
What game you ask ??
It's a Trek thing,,, Me an my bike are cloaked,,,Invisible In all circumstanses all the time.
I ride Into positions that they MUST be able to see me when I can
But I assume that they never do see me,,,EVER XD
Road Master
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From: MN
Proof that noise saves lives.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20014511-17.html
http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=739688
http://rwdaily.runnersworld.com/2009...the-roads.html
Apparently noise does make you more visible...even when approaching. I'll take any advantage I can get to be visible.
This is probably the same group that thinks motorcycles are too loud (read safer).
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20014511-17.html
http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=739688
http://rwdaily.runnersworld.com/2009...the-roads.html
Apparently noise does make you more visible...even when approaching. I'll take any advantage I can get to be visible.
This is probably the same group that thinks motorcycles are too loud (read safer).
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Cruiser
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From: newport RI
guilty as charged. (short shots)
there are loud exhausts, and there are really offensively loud exhausts, and the really loud ones are over the top IMHO.
now that i'm forced into stock pipes, which defence mechanism shall i use.. rationanization or justification. maybe combinations.. sigh.
there are loud exhausts, and there are really offensively loud exhausts, and the really loud ones are over the top IMHO.
now that i'm forced into stock pipes, which defence mechanism shall i use.. rationanization or justification. maybe combinations.. sigh.
Road Master
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We can agree that some are definitely offensive but staying with the EPA mandated factory exhaust is too quiet. Somewhere in the middle is the correct answer IMO. And you'll never convince me that louder doesnt make you more visible from the back, sides and even the front. I've just lived too long and ridden too many bikes, quiet and loud, to think that sound doesnt obey the laws of nature and travel in all directions, even forward.
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To tell me you've never heard a bike coming is complete BS. Maybe you can hear it more from behind but sound travels in ALL directions and a louder bike IS more visible to everyone in every direction. BTW, I don't have loud pipes I have SE Street Performance mufflers which are a good compromise although most would say they're not loud enough.
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Actually if your moving with radio at medium level or above, add AC you don't here any motorcycle engines at all unless by chance they are very close rapping on the throttle. The theory that a car will hear you coming and going is not reality even if your running straight pipes. I'm more visible / noticeable to a cager when wearing a white helmet then any sort of pipe. The best compliment i got from a trucker who comes to our company everyday was when he told me "Your helmet is very visible at a long range. Alot of people don't know that that most visible color on a motorcycle or helmet is white. Thats why motorcops wear white helmets.
Absolutely! I have loud pipes because I like listening to them, not because cagers will hear me, because they won't. "Loud pipes save lives" is one of the most widely spread lies on the internet. It isn't even remotely true, except that they do scare deer away...
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That is nuts...on more than one occasion I have had people do double takes at intersections because of my loud pipes...Sorry Tek but you have no idea if you believe that loud pipes don't save lives.
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And yes, I do have an idea as to whether I believe that loud pipes save lives (I believe that they don't - except for a few non-typical cases they never have, and never will - only an idiot would believe that they do). I don't think I've ever had someone tell me that I don't have an idea whether or not I believe something before. Unreal! So what, you're a mind-reader? Nope, you can't be. If you were, you would know that your premise is flawed by the fact that people generally don't hear you in time, and the ones that do (for the most part) don't care or are antagonized by your noise.
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