Screamin' Eagle ECM reflash advice
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From: victoria bc
Exactly. I would still look around online and see what I could get the best deal on. One advantage of the PV would be that you do not need a laptop. With the SEPST you need a PC near your bike or a laptop which isn't that big a deal for most people as most of us have one or the other.
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From: Bedford UK
eazzye, I find it difficult to believe what your dealer is telling you! You have a year old bike and the current SEPST won't work with it? That sounds like BS - tell him to supply one that will!
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From: Gulf Breeze, FL
Agreed - I would still go with the Xied's for the OP's 883 if he never planned on a motor upgrade...works fine and pocket the cash for some nice shocks, seat, ect. 
I have to add that the only reason I own a SE tuner is because of my previous turbo bike which made it mandatory and was basicly the only thing going at the time. I understand that the PV has a couple of key features that go beyond the SE tuner now, but isnt a deal breaker at any rate. The SE isnt really that user friendly which is why I suspect the popularity of the PV.
I have to add that the only reason I own a SE tuner is because of my previous turbo bike which made it mandatory and was basicly the only thing going at the time. I understand that the PV has a couple of key features that go beyond the SE tuner now, but isnt a deal breaker at any rate. The SE isnt really that user friendly which is why I suspect the popularity of the PV.
Last edited by rickss69; Jun 20, 2013 at 08:30 AM.
How do you auto tune with the SE Tuner? Can you data log with it?
Not to mention it provides head temp, mpg, has a tach and a 100 other things. But I think the feature that appeals to 90% of the people on this forum would be auto tune.
So, not really a blanket statement
Last edited by BMCsteve; Jun 20, 2013 at 10:29 AM.
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Nah, the dealer is telling him the Street Tuner is not compatible, which is true. HD does not include a flash for XLs in the Street Tuner.
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Ah - thanks for clearing that up!
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How do you auto tune with the SE Tuner? Can you data log with it?
Not to mention it provides head temp, mpg, has a tach and a 100 other things. But I think the feature that appeals to 90% of the people on this forum would be auto tune.
So, not really a blanket statement
Not to mention it provides head temp, mpg, has a tach and a 100 other things. But I think the feature that appeals to 90% of the people on this forum would be auto tune.
So, not really a blanket statement
No, the SE does not tell you your mpg...you have to do your own math. No, the SE does not have a digital screen displaying rpm.
What are the "100" other things the PV does that the SE doesnt and I will answer them individually.
What really appeals to the masses is the little screen of the PV and it requires less knowledge of efi systems to use. The SE tuner was never really intended for the masses...it's a technical thing. In the end there really isnt much more you can accomplish with a PV that can't be done with the SE.
Last edited by rickss69; Jun 20, 2013 at 11:26 AM.
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Yes, the SE has Smart Tune...yes, the SE has VCI record function...yes, the SE displays/records ET.
No, the SE does not tell you your mpg...you have to do your own math. No, the SE does not have a digital screen displaying rpm.
What are the "100" other things the PV does that the SE doesnt and I will answer them individually.
What really appeals to the masses is the little screen of the PV and it requires less knowledge of efi systems to use. The SE tuner was never really intended for the masses...it's a technical thing.
No, the SE does not tell you your mpg...you have to do your own math. No, the SE does not have a digital screen displaying rpm.
What are the "100" other things the PV does that the SE doesnt and I will answer them individually.
What really appeals to the masses is the little screen of the PV and it requires less knowledge of efi systems to use. The SE tuner was never really intended for the masses...it's a technical thing.
With the SE tuner can you store multiple tunes and flash the ecm without a computer?
Does the SE tuner store your stock tune?
Can you check your diagnostics and error codes on the bike?
Can you set alarms for temp, timing, etc?
Can you add a second bike to the SE tuner? With the power vision you can take it off your sporty, throw it on your street glide in 30 seconds and use all the same functions (this does cost something like $200 to add another bike though)
Want me to keep going?
Last edited by BMCsteve; Jun 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM.
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From: Gulf Breeze, FL
Ability to tune without disconnecting it, plugging it into a computer, etc. With a power vision you can auto tune or tune on the road, re-flash your ECM, make adjustments, etc. all in a day of riding. I dont want to have to go home every time I adjust a table
With the SE tuner can you store multiple tunes and flash the ecm without a computer?
Does the SE tuner store your stock tune?
Can you check your diagnostics and error codes on the bike?
Can you set alarms for temp, timing, etc?
Want me to keep going?
With the SE tuner can you store multiple tunes and flash the ecm without a computer?
Does the SE tuner store your stock tune?
Can you check your diagnostics and error codes on the bike?
Can you set alarms for temp, timing, etc?
Want me to keep going?