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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:04 AM
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why do people knock 883's?
Because they have small cranks.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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I'll knock the 883..... I'm not knocking anyone for buying it. I'm knocking the MoCo for even making it. What's the point? Just bore them all out to 1200 and be done with it. It costs no more to make a 1200 than an 883. The MoCo sells the 883 and then looks for a chance to get into your wallet to make it a 1200 later. They could sell a budget 1200 that costs no more than the base 883. The only good reason that I have ever seen for anyone wanting an 883 over a 1200 is a possibility of a cheaper insurance rate.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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What's the point? Just bore them all out to 1200 and be done with it.
If there was no market for them they would cease production without delay.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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What's the point? Just bore them all out to 1200 and be done with it.
If there was no market for them they would cease production without delay.
You don't get where I am coming from... If you had two identical bikes sitting on the floor, one an 883, one a 1200, both costing the same. Who other than the guy trying to save on his insurance would buy the 883 over the 1200? They are the same bike. Why do the buying public a disservice of building a lesser powered machine for the same money as the higher powered unit. Go price some pistons and valves. It costs no more to build a 1200 as a 883.

I've heard a lot of guys say that they wish they would have gotten a 1200 or were going to convert their 883 to a 1200. However, I've never heard any 1200 rider say that they sure wish they would have gotten the 883.

I'm not knocking the bike. I'm knocking the MoCo for making it and often passing it off as an "entry level bike." It is the same bike as a 1200. In reality, 1200 owners should be the one's that are pissed....If the bikes cost the same to build, which I'm sure they do, they the 1200 guys are overpaying.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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some people, especially beginners are not tremendously comfortable with the power of a 1200.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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some people, especially beginners are not tremendously comfortable with the power of a 1200.
That is mostly psychological, IMO.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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....I'm knocking the MoCo for making it and often passing it off as an "entry level bike."...
I concure with that. Completely. Why else does the Harley MSF course use Buell 500s for training, not that it's a particularlly good bike for that purpose -- in fact it's an awful "trainer." Harley really needs to come out with something beginning riders in England could use that meets the 400cc spec and which would make a lot of sense to me to market to "beginning" riders in this country as well. There ain't nothin' "small" about an 883.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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If I were buying a new bike today, and they were side by side at the same price, I'd probably by the 883. I like the finish on the motor better, and either one I'd be ripping apart and going 1250 with... plus the 883 would have the preferred sprocket.

I know, that's a very unique situation. I too have pondered the difference in cost. I'd guess HD carries the 883 almost as a loss leader to 'hook' new riders into the HD culture. Sure, the same could be done w/ a stripped down 1200, but my guess is that would cannibalise other 1200 sales.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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XL,

If I were buying a late model Sporty today, I would also buy an 883 and build it. I'd buy the 883 for two reasons. First, they are cheaper than a 1200. Second, I'd buy an 883R. I love the look of that bike, but think that it sucks to put the "R" race look on a bike that doesn't have the muscle to back it up. A couple of thousand bucks would take care of that, though.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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i love my 883 i wouldnt trade it for the world the fact is in my area the 1200 was about $1500 more ane it was easy to get the 883. Some day i would like to get a bigger bike but for now i got what i got and im happy with it
 
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