Shifting down
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2010
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From: Kafar Hanusi
I normally double down shift at each intersection I need to stop:
it saves a bit on the brake pads
I like the noise it makes
Keeps the gears spinning in case I need to change again
The neighbors don't mind
I've always done this
Its never been a concern till now
PS:
With all the inspection restrictions I read about I suggest everyone pack-up and move to Israel. My annual inspection takes roughly 2 minutes, everyone is looking over the chrome and want to hear her run (I assume for some rational reason).
I get my sticker and adios. Wam, bam, thank'ya mam...
it saves a bit on the brake pads
I like the noise it makes
Keeps the gears spinning in case I need to change again
The neighbors don't mind
I've always done this
Its never been a concern till now
PS:
With all the inspection restrictions I read about I suggest everyone pack-up and move to Israel. My annual inspection takes roughly 2 minutes, everyone is looking over the chrome and want to hear her run (I assume for some rational reason).
I get my sticker and adios. Wam, bam, thank'ya mam...
Road Captain
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 566
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From: Seattle, WA
I already did.
NC Gen Stat § 20-128:
The limit is any noise that is "excessive or unusual." The mere fact that it is often unenforced does not negate the law's existence.
The fact that a different state uses hard and fast decibel numbers similarly does NOT change the fact that NC's "excessive or unusual" standard absolutely is a noise restriction.
Your lay opinion on the law is false and misleading. Frankly, you remind me of the clients I've seen who insist that the income tax is illegal. No matter how many times a competent attorney explains the law to them, they persist in their belief because they have some secret or special knowledge (that they refuse to cite) and anything the attorney shows them that is counter to their position is ignored.
In any case, I'm done here. I've made my point, you've failed to refute it, and I'm confident that any neutral third-party can see this.
NC Gen Stat § 20-128:
§ 20‑128. Exhaust system and emissions control devices.
(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler, or other exhaust system of the type installed at the time of manufacture, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise, annoying smoke and smoke screens.
(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a muffler, or other exhaust system of the type installed at the time of manufacture, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise, annoying smoke and smoke screens.
The fact that a different state uses hard and fast decibel numbers similarly does NOT change the fact that NC's "excessive or unusual" standard absolutely is a noise restriction.
Your lay opinion on the law is false and misleading. Frankly, you remind me of the clients I've seen who insist that the income tax is illegal. No matter how many times a competent attorney explains the law to them, they persist in their belief because they have some secret or special knowledge (that they refuse to cite) and anything the attorney shows them that is counter to their position is ignored.
In any case, I'm done here. I've made my point, you've failed to refute it, and I'm confident that any neutral third-party can see this.
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,167
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From: Belgium
I always have the tendency to take informations on the net with the needed grain of salt. Depends who paid the study. In the 1950's, some doctors told people cigarettes were healthy. We all know how it is so true now. Some people believe God shaped the whole universe in 6 days. There are no evidences it happened that way. Some US presidents invaded some country because there were massive destruction weapons. We all know how it is so true now. Where are the evidences?
We all are free to think what we want
In this braking matter, you always come with evidences you even self not have tested. Have you done the braking test both way? I'm sure you didn't!
Oh, by the way, I still down shift when I brake, I even did it more than once today ...
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,755
Likes: 253
From: Northern Los Angeles area.
With all the inspection restrictions I read about I suggest everyone pack-up and move to Israel. My annual inspection takes roughly 2 minutes, everyone is looking over the chrome and want to hear her run (I assume for some rational reason).
I get my sticker and adios. Wam, bam, thank'ya mam...
I get my sticker and adios. Wam, bam, thank'ya mam...
Banned
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,461
Likes: 4
From: MI
were you there to be so affirmative?
I always have the tendency to take informations on the net with the needed grain of salt. Depends who paid the study. In the 1950's, some doctors told people cigarettes were healthy. We all know how it is so true now. Some people believe God shaped the whole universe in 6 days. There are no evidences it happened that way. Some US presidents invaded some country because there were massive destruction weapons. We all know how it is so true now. Where are the evidences?
We all are free to think what we want
In this braking matter, you always come with evidences you even self not have tested. Have you done the braking test both way? I'm sure you didn't!
Oh, by the way, I still down shift when I brake, I even did it more than once today ...
I always have the tendency to take informations on the net with the needed grain of salt. Depends who paid the study. In the 1950's, some doctors told people cigarettes were healthy. We all know how it is so true now. Some people believe God shaped the whole universe in 6 days. There are no evidences it happened that way. Some US presidents invaded some country because there were massive destruction weapons. We all know how it is so true now. Where are the evidences?
We all are free to think what we want
In this braking matter, you always come with evidences you even self not have tested. Have you done the braking test both way? I'm sure you didn't!
Oh, by the way, I still down shift when I brake, I even did it more than once today ...
I only post what I know gained by real life experiences. Not what a link said or what someone says they read or heard someone else say.
What I do know is no matter what the rear wheel, that provides at the most 30% of braking power will always spin when engine braking. A brake can lock it up easy. There is no way the engine can assist in braking when also applying the brake. Not possible. I dont care what any link says if it dont work on the road.
At my work we are required to take a BRC or advanced rider course every 3 years. Just took my 3rd class. I learn something new at every class and engine braking along with brake braking is something they never mention or teach. It will just confuse the learning process for the noobs there.
Maybe in 2019 if I find a sweet deal on a less than 1000 mile 2014 XL with standard ABS that still works I will get to know the advantage of ABS, and I look forward to it. Till then the brakes will brake and the engine will be for going fast.
Road Warrior
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 1
From: North Jersey
I shift up and I shift down, I shift to help with braking. I don't down shift that much in the rain but if it's sunny I down shift a lot. When it's cloudy I don't shift at all. If it's snowing I watch TV..
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From: east texas
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