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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Well, I finally pulled the trigger on a set of progressive 412's for my Sporty.

So, here's my first impressions. I got the 13 inch 412's, all black, got enough chrome (which, I know for some of yall is sacrilege to say) and wanted more black.

Why did I not do this 5 or 6 thousand miles ago? It is literally night and day of a difference. I know they'll take a while to "break in," but wow, what a difference. I like the taller look of the rear end, and with my long legs, the back coming up about an inch, maybe inch and a quarter feels right. Plus, I have more travel on the shocks with the longer length.

The ride is fantastic. The roads here in North Texas get all screwed up from our heat and drought cycles, and you get snakes in the road that pop up like little cliffs, bumps, humps and divots that can make a ride on the bad roads a teeth rattler and spine compressing test of butt-endurance! Not anymore! I tried to take her on some of the more "Adventurous" roads around the house, just a quick ride to test the shocks, "be back in about 10 minutes, honey!" that turned into a 50-60 mile, back in an hour with a smile on my face from ear to ear throttle twisting, corner carving, fun fest!

IF you're like I was for far, far too long, on the fence, can't decide, looked at a ton of shocks, and can't afford the $500 to $1000 shocks, which I am sure are great . . . . then do like me. Grab some 412's, slap them on, and ride in blissful comfort.

Side note, for your first test ride on your new 412's after moving up from stock shocks, you might want to wear a full face helmet, just so you don't swallow too many bugs, cause you'll be smiling big and wide as you go on that first, short (which will somehow take a lot longer and go a lot further) test ride.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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I believe your new shock experience was great, glad to hear it. I think the shock manufacturers are making WAY, and I mean WAY too much money on shocks that probably cost $25 a pair (labor and materials) to make in the US. Even less if they are made overseas. I'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade but it's plain robbery of willing victims.

A guy told me he was quoted $1,600+ for a pair of Ohlins for his bike and most shocks now are from $500 - $1,000 a pair. Enough is enough. I can't afford shocks at those prices and wouldn't pay it if I could.

Harley is not any better. They charge $20K for a bike that rides like a buck board.
Whew, there I got that off my chest!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny D
I believe your new shock experience was great, glad to hear it. I think the shock manufacturers are making WAY, and I mean WAY too much money on shocks that probably cost $25 a pair (labor and materials) to make in the US. Even less if they are made overseas. I'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade but it's plain robbery of willing victims.

A guy told me he was quoted $1,600+ for a pair of Ohlins for his bike and most shocks now are from $500 - $1,000 a pair. Enough is enough. I can't afford shocks at those prices and wouldn't pay it if I could.

Harley is not any better. They charge $20K for a bike that rides like a buck board.
Whew, there I got that off my chest!
That's a bold statement. I get your point but the plating process alone cost a lot. Price chrome plating sometime. Not cheap. Add a decent wage $20+hr and then you have materials, r&d, then advertisement. Lots more than you think. They do make money but not near as much as you think. This is why there are no good paying jobs and so much outsourcing. You want a quality product made in USA no matter who the mfg is from you got to pay for it. Otherwise keep digging a hole to china and drag some like minded thinkers with you. Op glad you are happy. I have decided on the 430 series chrome for mine instead of Hagon. Glad you are satisfied.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Trusten
Well, I finally pulled the trigger on a set of progressive 412's for my Sporty.

So, here's my first impressions. I got the 13 inch 412's, all black, got enough chrome (which, I know for some of yall is sacrilege to say) and wanted more black.

Why did I not do this 5 or 6 thousand miles ago? It is literally night and day of a difference. I know they'll take a while to "break in," but wow, what a difference. I like the taller look of the rear end, and with my long legs, the back coming up about an inch, maybe inch and a quarter feels right. Plus, I have more travel on the shocks with the longer length.

The ride is fantastic. The roads here in North Texas get all screwed up from our heat and drought cycles, and you get snakes in the road that pop up like little cliffs, bumps, humps and divots that can make a ride on the bad roads a teeth rattler and spine compressing test of butt-endurance! Not anymore! I tried to take her on some of the more "Adventurous" roads around the house, just a quick ride to test the shocks, "be back in about 10 minutes, honey!" that turned into a 50-60 mile, back in an hour with a smile on my face from ear to ear throttle twisting, corner carving, fun fest!

IF you're like I was for far, far too long, on the fence, can't decide, looked at a ton of shocks, and can't afford the $500 to $1000 shocks, which I am sure are great . . . . then do like me. Grab some 412's, slap them on, and ride in blissful comfort.

Side note, for your first test ride on your new 412's after moving up from stock shocks, you might want to wear a full face helmet, just so you don't swallow too many bugs, cause you'll be smiling big and wide as you go on that first, short (which will somehow take a lot longer and go a lot further) test ride.
Soooooo stoked that your experience was satisfying ... i bought these exact shocks 412's 13" for my 48 which is sadly waiting for Spring (I'm in stupidly cold upstate NY) to come out to play. I'm a tall (6'1") Sportster rider also. So nice to hear someone else had the same thought process and that it worked out so well ... Thanks for the ride report, it made my day!!!!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 08:44 PM
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Today I was at the Harley dealership near me, just trying to get ideas for what I want for my own bike, and I sat on a sporty with some taller progressive shocks and it was SO nice being higher up! I'm 6'2" and stock height is just too short. I think it was probably a 13" like you put on. I could do with even more height, maybe a 14" or something. Glad to hear they worked out as you had hoped! As I am pretty poor due to my recent purchase of the bike, I think I may call up Dime City Cycles and ask them if they have some of their more affordable shocks that would fit my application. They make a lot of universal products, and so maybe some of them might fit the XLs. I will post up once I get back from them.

here's a link to their suspension section. http://www.dimecitycycles.com/cafe-r...-steering.html
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny D
I believe your new shock experience was great, glad to hear it. I think the shock manufacturers are making WAY, and I mean WAY too much money on shocks that probably cost $25 a pair (labor and materials) to make in the US. Even less if they are made overseas. I'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade but it's plain robbery of willing victims.

A guy told me he was quoted $1,600+ for a pair of Ohlins for his bike and most shocks now are from $500 - $1,000 a pair. Enough is enough. I can't afford shocks at those prices and wouldn't pay it if I could.

Harley is not any better. They charge $20K for a bike that rides like a buck board.
Whew, there I got that off my chest!


Hope you feel better! Cheap shocks are just that and your first comments are probably justified. The guy with his expensive quote was talking top end Ohlins, there are less expensive versions, so don't take that number seriously.

The reason Harleys ride like buck boards is because they use 25 buck shocks. Our bikes don't have to ride like that, but to get a significant improvement we do have to spend a little more than 25 bucks! Well, quite a lot more, it has to be admitted. Expensive shocks cost more because they have superior designs of the internal damping mechanism and are made to higher standards of engineering.

I have Ohlins on my Glide (much less than $1,600) and the improved quality of ride and handling is truly remarkable. If you were to ride a Sporty with decent suspension you would surely appreciate the improvement, even if you couldn't afford it. Shocks can of course be swapped onto a later bike if you do.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny D
I believe your new shock experience was great, glad to hear it. I think the shock manufacturers are making WAY, and I mean WAY too much money on shocks that probably cost $25 a pair (labor and materials) to make in the US. Even less if they are made overseas. I'm sorry to rain on anyone's parade but it's plain robbery of willing victims.

A guy told me he was quoted $1,600+ for a pair of Ohlins for his bike and most shocks now are from $500 - $1,000 a pair. Enough is enough. I can't afford shocks at those prices and wouldn't pay it if I could.

Harley is not any better. They charge $20K for a bike that rides like a buck board.
Whew, there I got that off my chest!
You truly do not have a clue what you are talking about in every thing you said. If you can not afford good suspension, just admit that to yourself and realize not everyone can afford to buy a luxury car and if you can only afford a used Yugo than that is what you can drive. I am not insulting you but I am stating the facts and replying truthfully to your uneducated post. Have you ever dyno'd the aforementioned shock or for that matter, ever had one apart and actually seen what is inside or know how it works? I can tell you that I have and I have Dyno tested and taken apart almost every manufactures shock available in North America. Now that you are done thumping your chest, now start thumping your cranium to hear the echo. You should speak if you actually know what you are talking about. An Ohlins that you may speak of has absolutely no relationship with the aforementioned product.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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You can McGruber two twigs and ink pen springs to ride better than stock HD shocks...
 
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Old Jan 26, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sammy b
Soooooo stoked that your experience was satisfying ... i bought these exact shocks 412's 13" for my 48 which is sadly waiting for Spring (I'm in stupidly cold upstate NY) to come out to play. I'm a tall (6'1") Sportster rider also. So nice to hear someone else had the same thought process and that it worked out so well ... Thanks for the ride report, it made my day!!!!
I'm 6'2", and the 13 inchers were perfect for me. I, like you, have looked for about a year, reading reports, thinking about it, etc. before I pulled the trigger. I was worried they'd raise the back end too much and effect steering, etc.
Once you throw them on, you'll be dying to ride them. I hear that it take a few hundred miles to "break in" the shocks, but man, it was night and day from the get go.
Good on you for getting the 412's, best bargain I have spent on my ride. Enjoy buddy, sorry it will be so long before you get to try them out. Here's prayuing you get an early spring!
 
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