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Just bought a 2019 CVO Limited, and to my surprise is has had a lot of work done to it (see other thread). Anyway, it came with a TTS Tuner and tune (without auto-tune) and I also have a PowerVision w/Target-Tune from FuelMoto. From the description in the TTS tune it appears he had loaded a tune for a 114 with an S&S 550 cam. The tune that FuelMoto loaded w/my PowerVision doesn't really say what the tune was for, but they did tell me over the phone that they had a limited number of tunes for a 128 and none that matched my configuration (they sent me something close but it doesn't say what). I am wondering if anyone has a map that is closer to my config than the tunes I have (preferably the PowerMax since it has Target-Tune). Below is my setup....
128" 11:1 CR
64mm Throttle Body
64mm Aluminum Manifold
5.5g Injectors
High lift valve springs
D&D Billet CAT exhaust with Big Bore baffle
Zippers RedShift 552 or 548 cam (the previous owner couldn't remember which)
K&N RK-3956 Air Cleaner
Is the TTS tune a custom tune for the bike and it's modifications? Besides the description. What is the injector size, and displacement in the cal.
Actually, it is closer than I thought it was. I just opened it up in MasterTune2-HD and it has the following (see below). The stroke is actually 4.50 (128ci) and the cam is a Zippers RS548 or RS552 according to the original owner. Also the TB is a 64mm. It would be great If I could convert this to a base tune for my PowerVision. Is it possible to do so with a 3rd party tool or maybe by cutting and pasting from one to the other?
TTS Tune
Configuration: 107 -> 124 cu in Upgrade
Components:
-- Air Cleaner and Breather Kit
-- 4.25" Bore x 4.374" Stroke
-- 11.0:1 CR
-- S&S550 Cam
-- 5.5 Injectors
-- HPI Intake With Stock Throttlebody
-- D&D 2:1 Exhaust
This is all I have from the description in the PowerVision tune
Autogenerated from:
Strategy: 824
ECU:41000509
Family: TOURING
Model: FLHTKSE Electra Glide Ultra Limited (CVO)
Twin Cooled
Well, the TTS tune sounded much better, idled better and had better throttle response than the PV tune sent by FuelMoto, so I made a copy of the FuelMoto tune and copied and pasted many of the tables from the TTS to the PV tune. Main lambda table, VE tables front and rear, spark advance tables front and rear, accel and decel tables, spark correction table for head temp, etc. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Will load it and see what happens. If all is good, then I can use the PV Target Tune to improve it even more. Wish me luck.
Please keep us informed as to how the P/V TT vs TTS tune works out for you. All else fails you have perfectly good TTS calibration that you can run a couple V-tune (autotune) sessions to perfect it, that comes with the TTS product.
Bob
Please keep us informed as to how the P/V TT vs TTS tune works out for you. All else fails you have perfectly good TTS calibration that you can run a couple V-tune (autotune) sessions to perfect it, that comes with the TTS product.
Bob
Yes, unfortunately the TTS tuner that came with the bike isn't the green model and doesn't have support for wideband. That 's why I wanted to convert to PV. Will keep you informed.
You do not need any other sensors added to your bike in order to get it tuned to 90%, which is as good as it gets.
Dont get “sold” on needing to purchase extra stuff that adds to possible electrical woes down the road.
The TTS is a well-developed tuner and you need NOTHING else but someone who knows and understands how street-tuning or dyno-tuning.
I hate to see folks spending unnecessarily simply because they don’t understand what they are into.
Bob
You do not need any other sensors added to your bike in order to get it tuned to 90%, which is as good as it gets.
Dont get “sold” on needing to purchase extra stuff that adds to possible electrical woes down the road.
The TTS is a well-developed tuner and you need NOTHING else but someone who knows and understands how street-tuning or dyno-tuning.
I hate to see folks spending unnecessarily simply because they don’t understand what they are into.
Bob
Thanks for the advice, but I will not be spending anything extra. I already have both tuners and the sensors and can afford to experiment over the winter. The TTS tune is untouched and can be loaded anytime. But I do like the idea not having to hook up to a computer everytime I want to make a change. Also, I haven't decided yet if I will install the wideband sensors. If I do not, I can easily swap between the TTS tune and the PV tune for comparion. I do know quite a bit about street-tuning, but not I or anyone I know is familiar with the TTS. This gives me an opportunity to learn more about the TTS. Hands on is the best way to learn.
Did you ever get a base map that worked well enough to get the auto-tune to work? It seems this thread went cold. I am also asking because i too am in need of the base tune for my Zippers muscle 124 They want to sell me a ThunderMax when I have a perfectly good working PV with Autotune.
Did you ever get a base map that worked well enough to get the auto-tune to work? It seems this thread went cold. I am also asking because i too am in need of the base tune for my Zippers muscle 124 They want to sell me a ThunderMax when I have a perfectly good working PV with Autotune.
You don't mention the year of the bike or if it has RDRS but that's not build you want to tune anywhere but on a dyno with knowledgeable operator. It should be broke in on the dyno so stuff can be monitored from the start. That's a pretty pricey kit to mess up, you only get one chance.
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