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Road Warrior
Joined: May 2010
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From: Northern Colorado
Growing up all kids played cops and robbers or cowboys and indians..some of them grew up wanting the badge, the rest grew up wanting to take that badge..There are books and stories of both sides...I prefer the latter.
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Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Melbourne, Florida
Why even start a thread if your entire motive is to deride a life you know nothing about?
Email Sonny and tell him who you are, where you live, and challenge him to a badass contest.
http://sonnybarger.com/osc/contact_us.php
RIP
Email Sonny and tell him who you are, where you live, and challenge him to a badass contest.
http://sonnybarger.com/osc/contact_us.php
RIP
1. I happened to be reading the book.
2. This IS a motorcycle forum (relevance).
3. There is a great deal of biker worship on here.
I just thought it was worth mentioning, that based on comments he makes in his own book, he's not a role model worth looking up to. I don't feel like I need to live in his time, or relate to what it was like. The comments I made were based on the introduction to the book, written right before it was released in 2001. Am I to believe that in 2001 he needed to walk up take someone's jacket off because it had a patch on it? I don't see the need to defend someone who has the playground bully mentality at his age. Seems to me he's still a child.
Anyway, read more last night and between Sonny's and Thompson's books, Sonny's is easier to read and more interesting, even though I don't agree with his tactics.
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Joined: Jun 2009
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From: NJ
As someone said....full patched 81's are just 'regular guys' out to have a good time, like many of us do.
They...and the pasta eating fellas never caused me any problems in my life.
Take a walk outside at night in some neighborhoods I guarantee you'll have a gun in your face 20 times over before you EVER have a problem with any of the guys mentioned here. As a matter of fact I would bet you would get help from these guys first than the gun toting scum bags that walk the streets in droves just looking to run game on you and sometimes kill you just for the heck of it.
Two weeks ago a guy gets dragged into an alley here on good old Martin Luther king drive.
He has no money. Guy was told to then to drop to his knees and was shot in the back of the head. WTF? Really?
They...and the pasta eating fellas never caused me any problems in my life.
Take a walk outside at night in some neighborhoods I guarantee you'll have a gun in your face 20 times over before you EVER have a problem with any of the guys mentioned here. As a matter of fact I would bet you would get help from these guys first than the gun toting scum bags that walk the streets in droves just looking to run game on you and sometimes kill you just for the heck of it.
Two weeks ago a guy gets dragged into an alley here on good old Martin Luther king drive.
He has no money. Guy was told to then to drop to his knees and was shot in the back of the head. WTF? Really?
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Joined: Oct 2009
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From: 3rd Stone From The Sun
Theres plenty of threads on here I don't agree with or I feel are stupid (do you ride with your dog comes to mind) but I chose not to comment since there are people who would be insulted . Everyone talks about the freedoms we love and the parallels with riding but are quick to put down what we dont understand . A lot of members seem to think that they are the voice of HD and everyone else is wrong. We customize are bikes to show our individualality but expect the rider to fit a mold based on a group interpretation. You dont have to agree but you can reserve comment.
As for understanding the biker culture I believe I have a much better understanding of it than most people. I grew up in NYC in the 60s and 70s. Met some bikers along the way including Sandy Alexander (RIP). Sat across the table from Sandy many times. Interestingly enough he was in my custody at one point. I have a much deeper understanding about what really goes on in that world than most people will ever have. Of course my perspective and that of 1% full patched members is significantly different, at least what they will admit in public anyway.
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From: Kentucky
Next, only read the intro of Barger's book so far. What a cocky, self absorbed person. 3 times during his intro he makes it clear to the reader that he sets the situation straight when someone presumes to wear a patch of which he doesn't approve. He proceeds to rectify the situation by removing (forcibly stealing) it from its rightful owner I'm not sure how he's survived as long as he has. Can tell this should be an exciting read about middle school playground bullys gone wild.
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From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Is that my entire motive? This thread was started because...
1. I happened to be reading the book.
2. This IS a motorcycle forum (relevance).
3. There is a great deal of biker worship on here.
I just thought it was worth mentioning, that based on comments he makes in his own book, he's not a role model worth looking up to. I don't feel like I need to live in his time, or relate to what it was like. The comments I made were based on the introduction to the book, written right before it was released in 2001. Am I to believe that in 2001 he needed to walk up take someone's jacket off because it had a patch on it? I don't see the need to defend someone who has the playground bully mentality at his age. Seems to me he's still a child.
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1. I happened to be reading the book.
2. This IS a motorcycle forum (relevance).
3. There is a great deal of biker worship on here.
I just thought it was worth mentioning, that based on comments he makes in his own book, he's not a role model worth looking up to. I don't feel like I need to live in his time, or relate to what it was like. The comments I made were based on the introduction to the book, written right before it was released in 2001. Am I to believe that in 2001 he needed to walk up take someone's jacket off because it had a patch on it? I don't see the need to defend someone who has the playground bully mentality at his age. Seems to me he's still a child.
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Lot of secret patch worship in here , on flip side we also have a number of real & former patch holders who stepped away for their own reasons , I'm not talking cop clubs or wanna be HOG types . Don't kid yourself thinking it's all fantasy bullshit . Unless you've lived in that world totally and actually know how it works and the rules involved ( yes there are rules ) your passing judgement only shows a complete lack of knowledge of it .
There's owners & harley riders and then there's bikers , been saying since I joined this circus they are the not the same thing . Ones making the most noise about not being recognized or acknowledged as one are usually the farthest from it . Say what you want about Ralph Barger , when all the rhetoric and smoke clears he was real as it gets .
Some people walk the other side of the tracks , safety tip they do exist and don't play by your values .
Last edited by TwiZted Biker; Feb 20, 2012 at 05:15 PM.
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Joined: Mar 2010
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From: western illinois
a buddy of mine i used to work with is a former 1%er, and was vp of his chapter. he told me alot of stuff about getting in, being a prospect, alot of insider stuff. some of it was humerous, some sad, and some just disgusting. guess thats why i like reading anything twizted has to say, he sounds alot like my buddy, been there, done that.
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From: Puget Sound, WA.
Is that my entire motive? This thread was started because...
1. I happened to be reading the book.
2. This IS a motorcycle forum (relevance).
3. There is a great deal of biker worship on here.
I just thought it was worth mentioning, that based on comments he makes in his own book, he's not a role model worth looking up to. I don't feel like I need to live in his time, or relate to what it was like. The comments I made were based on the introduction to the book, written right before it was released in 2001. Am I to believe that in 2001 he needed to walk up take someone's jacket off because it had a patch on it? I don't see the need to defend someone who has the playground bully mentality at his age. Seems to me he's still a child.
Anyway, read more last night and between Sonny's and Thompson's books, Sonny's is easier to read and more interesting, even though I don't agree with his tactics.
1. I happened to be reading the book.
2. This IS a motorcycle forum (relevance).
3. There is a great deal of biker worship on here.
I just thought it was worth mentioning, that based on comments he makes in his own book, he's not a role model worth looking up to. I don't feel like I need to live in his time, or relate to what it was like. The comments I made were based on the introduction to the book, written right before it was released in 2001. Am I to believe that in 2001 he needed to walk up take someone's jacket off because it had a patch on it? I don't see the need to defend someone who has the playground bully mentality at his age. Seems to me he's still a child.
Anyway, read more last night and between Sonny's and Thompson's books, Sonny's is easier to read and more interesting, even though I don't agree with his tactics.
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From: Puget Sound, WA.
a buddy of mine i used to work with is a former 1%er, and was vp of his chapter. he told me alot of stuff about getting in, being a prospect, alot of insider stuff. some of it was humerous, some sad, and some just disgusting. guess thats why i like reading anything twizted has to say, he sounds alot like my buddy, been there, done that.
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