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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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So I'm trying to save as much as possible. I looked at a pair of pioneer 5 1/4" 2 way speakers at my local audio shop. They are rated at 4 Ohms and 250 watt max. I grabbed them since they seemed like a good deal.

My question is will they be ok to use in the faring being that they are not Marine Grade?
The bike is a 2000 EG Classic
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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Maybe for awhile, I run car speakers in my boat, they last a year or 2 then they fall apart.

I use HogTunes in my motorcycles, relativly cheaper than the alternatives and they last quite awhile. I have a set with over 7 years on them.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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agreed. As soon as they get wet or damp, they begin to go down hill. Just don't last as long as the marine grade.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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If you live where there is no rain and cover them when you wash your bike maybe a year or so. They end up cost more than a good pair when you add the cost of buying the twice.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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"paper" speakers can be scotchguarded...lightly.

In the pro audio/ concert sound world we have been doing this for years...you get the young bands who think that throwing beer around is cool.

however, OP your amp wants to see a 2 ohm load- a 4 ohm load may damage the amp over time.

option to add 4 ohm speakers to fairing lowers ( or saddlebag lids) and wired in parallel with the fairing speakers would total 2 ohms.



the "250W" rating is how much electricity that speaker can absorb from your amp without bursting into flames- there is not relation to how much sound is produced

the key specification is "sensitivity" which is how much sound is produced for each watt the amp gives the speaker.


ooops! thanks- I missed that he had an older model!

so if the amp is 4 ohm- hey presto, off you go.

if it is 8 ohm, you can add a 2nd set of speakers but wire in series to equal an 8 ohm load.





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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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all depends if your using an amp or what ohm rating your head unit is,not sure on years but older bikes used an 8 ohm head unit,newwer
use a 2 ohm.IF yours is 8 ohm head unit 4 ohm speakers will kill your head unit,
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdumbnoitall00
all depends if your using an amp or what ohm rating your head unit is,not sure on years but older bikes used an 8 ohm head unit,newwer use a 2 ohm.IF yours is 8 ohm head unit 4 ohm speakers will kill your head unit,
That! Without an amp your stock head unit wants 8 ohms. Not many 8 ohm speakers out there any more. The whole "marine" thing is next to meaningless with modern speaker materials.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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I ran a set of 4 ohm speakers on my '03 EG Classic for nearly 4 years with no issues whatsoever. It won't hurt anything at all.
 
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
"paper" speakers can be scotchguarded...lightly.

In the pro audio/ concert sound world we have been doing this for years...you get the young bands who think that throwing beer around is cool.

however, OP your amp wants to see a 2 ohm load- a 4 ohm load may damage the amp over time.

option to add 4 ohm speakers to fairing lowers ( or saddlebag lids) and wired in parallel with the fairing speakers would total 2 ohms.



the "250W" rating is how much electricity that speaker can absorb from your amp without bursting into flames- there is not relation to how much sound is produced

the key specification is "sensitivity" which is how much sound is produced for each watt the amp gives the speaker.





Mike
less ohms will pass more current (don't use 1ohm speakers with a 2ohm system). More ohms will pass less current and make less sound (4ohm won't harm a 2ohm system but won't be as loud). Look up ohms law to see for yourself. Keep in mind that coil inductance and reactance will vary the current passed relative to the sound frequency going to the speaker.
 
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Originally Posted by HDSAE60
less ohms will pass more current (don't use 1ohm speakers with a 2ohm system). More ohms will pass less current and make less sound (4ohm won't harm a 2ohm system but won't be as loud). Look up ohms law to see for yourself. Keep in mind that coil inductance and reactance will vary the current passed relative to the sound frequency going to the speaker.
 
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