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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by billnourse
The clutch is never all the way in, just feathered, the rear brake is applied to hold speed down, and the throttle is applied a bit to keep power to the rear wheel.
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1+++ on that,
seeing the European Alps from my kitchen window and having them ridden from east to west and north to south dozens of times, especially applying the rear brake and the throttle, helped me to avoid tipping over in twisties or hairpins.
vboxmark, i`m riding the same bike as you do (09 Ultra) and this bike is perfect for mountain riding (compared to other heavy touring bikes). Low mass center (i hope you understand, what i mean) and a gentle rear brake, just keep the bike going!


(OT to grbrown: The steepest road, i`ve ever ridden is in the UK. See pic)


 
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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 05:21 PM
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never take your eyes from the road

DO NOT look at the edge if you get close to the line or you will go right where you look

Learn the capabilities of your machine and practice a LOT ! Just cause you been ridin 50 years do not mean you are any good.

DO NOT GET ABSORBED IN THE SCENERY !!!!




I wish my riding buddy did the above or he could have avoided the ravine and shattered wrist and I could have avoided seeing him go off the road and dealing with the hassles of bike retrieval in a remote area, starvation and exertion !!!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 03:39 AM
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(OT to grbrown: The steepest road, i`ve ever ridden is in the UK. See pic)


I have to admit I haven't been up Wrynose, but I have ridden in the Munich area during our trips around Europe. The photo below is of our Glide at rest in France, on our way back home on our trip from Slovenia, over the Alps.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 04:19 AM
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Friction zoneeeeee!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 04:43 AM
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You won't be waiting on this car in the curves.


The right car driven by the right person will take a motorcycle to school in the tight stuff.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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And this is what makes the Dragon so dangerous. An idiot crossing the center lane at high rates of speed.

But I don't see what this has to do with a car taking a "motorcycle to school". He passed a few cars, but I did not see him pass one motorcycle except the ones he was meeting. Not even a slow old peg dragging HD. Were there no motorcycles going the same direction as him that he could overtake?? With as many as he met, I would think he would have been few going his direction. When he can do Pikes Peak in 11 minutes post that video.

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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by billnourse
And this is what makes the Dragon so dangerous. An idiot crossing the center lane at high rates of speed.

But I don't see what this has to do with a car taking a "motorcycle to school". He passed a few cars, but I did not see him pass one motorcycle except the ones he was meeting. Not even a slow old peg dragging HD. Were there no motorcycles going the same direction as him that he could overtake?? With as many as he met, I would think he would have been few going his direction. When he can do Pikes Peak in 11 minutes post that video.

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This thread was about riding in the mountains. Specifically, how to do it when following cars who are slow and make the rider uneasy at slow speeds on switchbacks. Someone opined that motorcycles are faster around curves than cars. I know different and posted the first video I found on YouTube. Anybody who thinks that a motorcycle is faster in the curves than a well driven well set up car is mistaken.

So that's why I posted the video. BTW, I go to Deal's Gap about once a month. Harley riders cross the center line more than anyone else; they also crash regularly as well.

I'm headed to New Orleans on Sunday for a few days and then over to the Gap. Maybe you could meet me over there and see first hand.

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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
You won't be waiting on this car in the curves.
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The right car driven by the right person will take a motorcycle to school in the tight stuff.
That's why I have no interest in riding the Dragon, plenty of good twisty roads in this country (with far better views with more than just trees beside the road) that don't have a bunch of bike and cage drivers seeing how hard they can push it. That would be another of my mountain riding safety tips - stay off the Dragon, it's not only how good you are, but also how good the other guy is, and a whole lot of folks have proven they aren't as good as they thought on that road.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by joebedford
Why do you "blip"? Steady RPM seems better to me.
Because my electronic throttle is a bit jumpy. It's more comfortable for me to blip. Plus, I look cool with my doo-rag and skull t shirts.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
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So that's why I posted the video. BTW, I go to Deal's Gap about once a month. Harley riders cross the center line more than anyone else; they also crash regularly as well.

I'm headed to New Orleans on Sunday for a few days and then over to the Gap. Maybe you could meet me over there and see first hand.

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Yeah! I'll ride 2,000 miles so you can learn me??? I rode the Dragon in 2013 and did not find it as challenging as many other roads in the US that I have ridden. Certainly no more so than Pikes Peak or Mt. Evans, Million Dollar Highway, etc. I just finished riding the 25 10,000 ft. high passes in the Colorado Rockies with a group forum riders. 2,000 miles of nothing but mountains for 7 days, so I guess I'll pass on your lesson.

The most challenging part of the Dragon is avoiding the idiots such as the video you posted.

To OP sorry this got out of hand. Hope you came away with some useful information that will help you become a better rider and overcome the challenges of slow riding. Some of the info that has been posted is very sound, some not so much.

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