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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 07:11 PM
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Looking for input to upgrade my stage 1 2010 RG 96 engine.


First, existing mods. Stage 1 basic HD open air cleaner and filter element. Vance and Hines Big Shot true dual, PC V with canned map. No oil cooler.


This setup yields about 42 mpg and is a dog down low but pulls great at 3k where I mostly ride. Sound at slow speed is loud, but at highway speed is tolerable and I can hear the radio at 75. Current set up does not run hot or go into EITMS.


I am aware the big shots are killing the low end, so part of the plan is either cutting the pipes off and adding slip ons or getting a de-catted 2-1-2 headpipe from an 11 model and slip ons


As to cams, wondering what people have had success with on the 96? Not looking to go bigger on engine size, already own a 120R, and a 107. Just looking for a little more umpth down low. Rarely turn past 4k, but tend to ride a 1000miles at a stretch. Mainly looking for easy start, super reliable torque cams.


Current thoughts Andrews 21, Woods 222, SE 255, or maybe one of the S&S easy start cams.


Got woods in all other bikes, but thought I might stray on this one...


Input?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 07:20 PM
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I had the 222's in my 08 SG and they were awesome down low which is right where you are looking for more torque. A 2-1 exhaust combined with the cams would put a big smile on your face. That's my 2 cents.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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without compression reales think i would have to look real hard at the easy starts. my 07 never liked to start when hot.
 
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Originally Posted by bigskyroadglide
Looking for input to upgrade my stage 1 2010 RG 96 engine.


First, existing mods. Stage 1 basic HD open air cleaner and filter element. Vance and Hines Big Shot true dual, PC V with canned map. No oil cooler.


This setup yields about 42 mpg and is a dog down low but pulls great at 3k where I mostly ride. Sound at slow speed is loud, but at highway speed is tolerable and I can hear the radio at 75. Current set up does not run hot or go into EITMS.


I am aware the big shots are killing the low end, so part of the plan is either cutting the pipes off and adding slip ons or getting a de-catted 2-1-2 headpipe from an 11 model and slip ons


As to cams, wondering what people have had success with on the 96? Not looking to go bigger on engine size, already own a 120R, and a 107. Just looking for a little more umpth down low. Rarely turn past 4k, but tend to ride a 1000miles at a stretch. Mainly looking for easy start, super reliable torque cams.


Current thoughts Andrews 21, Woods 222, SE 255, or maybe one of the S&S easy start cams.


Got woods in all other bikes, but thought I might stray on this one...


Input?
Cams or no cams, you can get a 8-15% increase in your low and mid range power by putting some Thunder Torque Inserts into your Big Shots.

You'll probably like the deeper tone better also.

Here's a vid with a few bikes that have the TTI's in them.

 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:31 AM
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I would leave everything the way it is and try the Andrews 48 cams. You might be happy with just a cam swap. These cams kicking around 2200 rpms and they just keep pulling
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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I run the 21's, pulls hard from right off idle to around 4500 or so.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bigskyroadglide
Looking for input to upgrade my stage 1 2010 RG 96 engine.


First, existing mods. Stage 1 basic HD open air cleaner and filter element. Vance and Hines Big Shot true dual, PC V with canned map. No oil cooler.


This setup yields about 42 mpg and is a dog down low but pulls great at 3k where I mostly ride. Sound at slow speed is loud, but at highway speed is tolerable and I can hear the radio at 75. Current set up does not run hot or go into EITMS.


I am aware the big shots are killing the low end, so part of the plan is either cutting the pipes off and adding slip ons or getting a de-catted 2-1-2 headpipe from an 11 model and slip ons


As to cams, wondering what people have had success with on the 96? Not looking to go bigger on engine size, already own a 120R, and a 107. Just looking for a little more umpth down low. Rarely turn past 4k, but tend to ride a 1000miles at a stretch. Mainly looking for easy start, super reliable torque cams.


Current thoughts Andrews 21, Woods 222, SE 255, or maybe one of the S&S easy start cams.


Got woods in all other bikes, but thought I might stray on this one...


Input?
Andrews 48's are definitely the way to go in a 96. Great torque and power increase across the range.

The Woods 222 has very similar specs and would probably be a strong runner also.

No need for easy start cams or compression releases on a stage-2 96. You will need to do something with those pipes.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2015 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nhrider1
Andrews 48's are definitely the way to go in a 96. Great torque and power increase across the range.

The Woods 222 has very similar specs and would probably be a strong runner also.

No need for easy start cams or compression releases on a stage-2 96. You will need to do something with those pipes.
No need for easy start cams or compression releases on a stage-2 96 ... There are a number of riders who have "hot start" problems with the SE-255's and I have a friend who is among them. Maybe the Andrews 48's are better. It's not the amount of "squeeze" so much as where it's "squeezed" at that makes the difference.
 
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I would leave everything the way it is and try the Andrews 48 cams. You might be happy with just a cam swap. These cams kicking around 2200 rpms and they just keep pulling
I just put these cams in my Fatboy over the winter and I absolutely love them!
 
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+on the 48's......
 
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