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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 01:46 PM
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I've encountered an issue with my 15 RK that I'll take in for (hopefully) warranty work, but want to run it by here first. I get pretty hard shudder or vibration when front brakes are applied at anything over 45 mph or so. Doesn't happen at all just using the rear, but as we know it's preferable to use mainly the front. I have about 8500 miles on it, linked ABS. If it were warped rotor(s), wouldn't the vibration occur at all speeds? Makes me wonder if it's got something to do with the ABS module. Anyone run into something like this?

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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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I had a warped rotor on my 2014 and yes it shudder all the way to a stop. however as the speed reduced it would change from a shudder to a slow pulsating.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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You should have it checked. The runout spec is .008. Your bike could be .007, and they wont fix it, but it will still shudder like hell.
 
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I read of a fix/check on the front rotors. Some front twin rotors seam to be be aligned hole for hole from right to left forks. so this owner rotated one rotor one bolt hole and the shudder subsided.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 10:46 PM
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check the float on the rotors... if you can not move the float up and down with your thumb and pointer, then chances are the rotor is locked in a warp (in your case) which can be freed up with penetrating oil and GENTLY prying against the float and the rotor with a screw driver just enough to get the penetrating oil into the float disc itself.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
You should have it checked. The runout spec is .008. Your bike could be .007, and they wont fix it, but it will still shudder like hell.



My 2015 RK has had two front right rotors replaced so far. The left one is bad too. It's within spec, barely though. I called HD customer service at the recommendation of the dealership. The dealership said they would go to bat for me once I had a customer service issue ticket #. It shakes/shudders really bad, at certain speeds coupled with a certain amount of brake lever pressure (often when I'm under heavy braking pressure). I told HD customer service about the bike doing it for 9,000 of the 12,000 miles I've put on and I was sick and tired of dealing with it. It's sucks to jam the brakes on when you really need them and have the bike shudder like a mother f$&!#r, making the hairy situation even more unnerving!

Maybe the dealers suggestion can help someone else here too.

Bike goes in soon and they said they would tell HD customer service that it's going to go out of spec eventually, so why not take care of it now!?!
 

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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sedonastrider


My 2015 RK has had two front right rotors replaced so far. The left one is bad too. It's within spec, barely though. I called HD customer service at the recommendation of the dealership. The dealership said they would go to bat for me once I had a customer service issue ticket #. It shakes/shudders really bad, at certain speeds coupled with a certain amount of brake lever pressure (often when I'm under heavy braking pressure). I told HD customer service about the bike doing it for 9,000 of the 12,000 miles I've put on and I was sick and tired of dealing with it. It's sucks to jam the brakes on when you really need them and have the bike shudder like a mother f$&!#r, making the hairy situation even more unnerving!

Maybe the dealers suggestion can help someone else here too.

Bike goes in soon and they said they would tell HD customer service that it's going to go out of spec eventually, so why not take care of it now!?!
Wow - thanks for that info. It's pretty sad to spend so much on this beautiful motorcycle and then have something as important as the brakes not work right. I never had this problem with my 06 or my 93, but then again they didn't have abs either. Of course it's very possible that the QC on the rotors just sucks more with the new design for some reason - new vendor maybe?
 
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Originally Posted by cathead
Wow - thanks for that info. It's pretty sad to spend so much on this beautiful motorcycle and then have something as important as the brakes not work right. I never had this problem with my 06 or my 93, but then again they didn't have abs either. Of course it's very possible that the QC on the rotors just sucks more with the new design for some reason - new vendor maybe?
Welcome. I was pretty disappointed too! Will let you know how it turns out when I get the bike in for the work. The ABS isn't a factor imho. It's like you said basically, substandard rotor material or QC.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 09:49 PM
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Oh. I would just move to a high quality rotor but the service advisor said that I'd likely void my brake system warranty. He's a good guy and gives me good insight. In a year when I'm out of warranty, I'll change the rotors out if I'm still having issues.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sedonastrider
Oh. I would just move to a high quality rotor but the service advisor said that I'd likely void my brake system warranty. He's a good guy and gives me good insight. In a year when I'm out of warranty, I'll change the rotors out if I'm still having issues.
Good tip - thanks!
 
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