The original poster must not have ridden a bike with linked brakes before he purchased his new bike. Maybe he just fell in love and asked "where do I sign".
Live and learn.

 

I guess I did read that a while back but for me it got lost in some of the other controversy.

 

Only Bosch and contemporary cutting edge sportbikes have a fully capable motorcycle stability control system, which allows the ABS to function correctly when leaned over in a curve. Harley-Davidson does NOT have that brand of ABS system.

The ABS on a Harley-Davidson DOES NOT provide the same ABS functionality when leaned over as it does when braking in a straight line.

Some H-D info here: http://thundermountainharley.com/201...or-not-to-abs/

 

Thanks for the link, it kind of confirmed what I thought. I may have to go look at the DVD to get the whole story.

 

This thread is NOT about ABS. You guys keep bringing it up here, but it's irrelevant to my original questions and thoughts.

ABS and linked brakes are not mutually exclusive. Not my point of OP.

 

Somebody asked a question, and somebody else answered it.

If you have a problem with thread drift on the internet, the solution is simple: Start your own web site, and delete the posts you don't like.

 

Well, there are enough issues it appears that this thread got hijacked in many ways. In my case all I wanted to know was if most people thought that the ABS/Reflex system design was defective. I just bought my bike used from a certain dealer in Daytona Beach and it wasn't a pleasant experience for the most part. Since there was an "event" going on I wasn't allowed to test ride the bike but it only had 11,600 mi on it and it was a Police model so I figured it had been well maintained.

I didn't have a choice if I wanted to ride home... yes, I could have rented a car or flew home. I had friends with me and I didn't want to ruin the entire trip.

Anyway, I rode the bike for two days and then took it back and asked for a couple of things to be addressed... one of them was the brakes. There was little improvement.

Do y'all think that a dealer is supposed to sell a Harley "as is" or should they have repaired the bike (or at least negotiated a reasonable compromise since they thought that they had enough money in it already... of course!)?

These brakes grab like nobody's business. There is no way to just gradually come to a stop >if< you are using a front brake/rear brake combined stop. I assure you I have had enough practice in the past 4 months to "learn" how to use this system. Either the rotors are hot spotted or the system doesn't work as I think it should. I'm just doing some research to see if I should try the warranty route, the beat on the dealer route, or the suck it up and take the hits on my wallet route. Since this is the first time I have encountered a reflex system (but not an ABS system) I wanted to hear some constructive input.

I am just looking for input to see if there is any difference between standard ABS and Reflex assisted ABS and if it is a problem free design before I start arguing or crying, whichever the case may be.

As for the dealer, they wouldn't even let me pay cash for the bike for one example of many things I am not happy about. They wanted their kickback from Eagle financing. I paid it off immediately when I got home.

The guy at the custom desk, otoh, was excellent and should be running the place imho.

 

Have you tried just using the rear brakes only and as its almost stopped let go of the rear brake and grab the rest of the stop with the front? Thats how I do mine and seems to help.

Batman

 

Well, I've been using the first half of your suggestion... I will try the full blown technique next!

 

I have a 2014 FLHR. The brakes are smooth and under normal and hard braking they work very well in my opinion. The only time I really notice the link system is if I apply the rear brakes first and then squeeze the front brake it has a little bit of take up before it gives resistance. This is because one of the front calipers is already being engaged by the link system. If your brakes are grabbing and are impossible to stop smoothly there is a problem with your brake system. If that was the case with all rushmores or even common there would be numerous complaints about it on this forum. I would get it checked out by trusted mechanic. Hope this works out for you.