Harley Warranty and 21 inch Front Wheel

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Feb 3, 2016 | 09:02 AM

#11

xmen9c

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From: Northern O H I O

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Originally Posted by big papa AZ

The MM act is BS. You are trying to get the dealership to fix your bike under warranty, then they say no, you quote the MM act, they say sue us! How long and how much will that take? They are always in the driver or rider seat.

No, you put the charges on your CC and then dispute them and have the dealer sue you...

Feb 3, 2016 | 11:42 AM

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grbrown

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From: Bedford UK

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Originally Posted by the wild hog

Have a hard time believing a wheel would void a warranty.

It could be said that it changes the steering geometry away from factory spec?

By contrast all the stock front wheels that H-D has used over the years, 16", 17", 18" and 19", all have near identical rolling diameters, because the tyre sidewall is smaller with each larger size of rim.

Feb 3, 2016 | 11:54 AM

#13

rg_dave

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From: Cypress, TX

Sorry, still not buying it. All of the sensor stuff has been worked out and the oil sump thing is just silly. But hey, I have 6 dealerships within an easy ride/drive. I would just find another. I wouldn't argue about the MMA, not worth my time and I don't want to deal with someone being an a$$hat. Fortunately, the one just around the corner has always been very easy to deal with, nice people. Other than being expensive I can't say anything negative. And if I can get a matching part cheaper elsewhere they match the price. I do my own work though because that's what I like to do unless it is a warranty or recall issue.

Feb 3, 2016 | 12:20 PM

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vizcarmb

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From: NorCal Rocklin

HOG magazine wrote an article and an HD engineer explained why 21 in front wheels were not used in touring bikes. The article was written a long time ago. Something related to handling. And the max diameter wheel for the front was 19in to ride safely. Im sure the engineers at Harley did every wheel and tire combination as possible and figured out that a 21in wheel on a touring bike is a bad idea.

But I dont believe the dealer either.

Feb 3, 2016 | 12:41 PM

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xmen9c

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From: Northern O H I O

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Originally Posted by vizcarmb

Haven't read the article but I have had 3 bikes that have all had 21" wheels (2012 CVO RG, 2013 RKC and 2008 DLX).

IMHO, they all handle BETTER than with their stock wheels. The only thing I noticed w/my 21's is the bike may feel like it wants to dip into whatever side you're turning at slower speeds (and I mean at 5-10 mph it can feel as though the tip over factor seems easier to get to). It's not something you can't handle but it is slightly different than with the stock wheel size for the bikes I've had.

Other than that, IMHO, they turn easier overall to me and seem to ride smoother on the freeway. Add to that they obvious visual appeal and it's a no brainer to me. I'll likely have one on all my bikes that look good with one and haven't had a warranty voided yet because of it.

Feb 3, 2016 | 01:00 PM

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JMC22

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I would have a wheelie hard time not laughing if a dealer told me this....

Feb 3, 2016 | 09:24 PM

#17

skratch

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From: anacoco, la

maybe not void the manufacturer warranty, but it can very easily be a reason to deny coverage on the esp. in fact, the esp paperwork specifically mentions:

Quote:

section 6. Non-Covered Conditions

This contract does not cover and it does not apply to:

14. YOUR MOTORCYCLE if it has been modified with any alterations to the powertrain, the suspension (including tire or wheel sizes) and/or an exhaust system not approved by Harley-Davidson.

and remember, the MMA does not apply to esp, only to mfg warrantees.