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Looks like a solid piece. I'm intrigued about your mounting system. Any plans to manufacture? What type of transfer do you use (screw on nozzle, funnel, plumbed into the bike)?
I get pretty good mileage with my 110. I can go 70-100 miles after my low fuel light comes on. My gauge reads accurate, just that stupid light comes on after 130 miles. I always try to fill up at 200, but pushed it to 227 one time. I put 5.43 gallons in to fill up. I sometimes get adventurous and take a route I don't know, in an area I'm not familiar with. A tank like yours would be great for trips.
I get pretty good mileage with my 110. I can go 70-100 miles after my low fuel light comes on. My gauge reads accurate, just that stupid light comes on after 130 miles. I always try to fill up at 200, but pushed it to 227 one time. I put 5.43 gallons in to fill up. I sometimes get adventurous and take a route I don't know, in an area I'm not familiar with. A tank like yours would be great for trips.
Right now I just have a Pingel Guzzler petcock mounted in the bottom.
I just use a empty pop bottle and fill it and pour into tank when needed.
I might try to hook it to a fuel pump later.
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I sent a drawing and spec's to Boyd welding LLC and had them build it.
That's all they do is build fuel tanks. check out his website.
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Having looked at their website I would say that is a 'yes'. Looks expensive, is it directly connected or just a spare can?
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I have a petcock in the bottom to drain fuel out when needed.
I can unbolt it if I wish but I just drain fuel into a empty pop
bottle and pour it in my tank when needed. I may hook it
up to a fuel pump in the future. I looked at them REDA cans
that go into the saddle bags but they take up to much space.
Just wanted something different.
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From: chico
Not a thing I'd recommend, but...stock fuel tanks can be, with great caution, pressurized and "swollen" slightly. Sometimes this starts cracks that leak. Sometimes this makes the tank(s) useless due to deformation. Best to do it whilst tanks are mounted - again I'd not recommend this, but it can work...if it does you can gain 10 to 20 % capacity. I have done it with success. Obviously leaving the tank full of gas while over-pressuring it is stupid. Water. Yes, that too creates problems...but it is safe.
Nice job of mount and fab!
I just keep that sucker full every chance to top up. Tried carrying extra gas long ago. The quantity was insufficient and the risk of fire more than I was comfy with...but the op has done a fine job that looks safe and useful!
Nice job of mount and fab!
I just keep that sucker full every chance to top up. Tried carrying extra gas long ago. The quantity was insufficient and the risk of fire more than I was comfy with...but the op has done a fine job that looks safe and useful!
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Not a thing I'd recommend, but...stock fuel tanks can be, with great caution, pressurized and "swollen" slightly. Sometimes this starts cracks that leak. Sometimes this makes the tank(s) useless due to deformation. Best to do it whilst tanks are mounted - again I'd not recommend this, but it can work...if it does you can gain 10 to 20 % capacity. I have done it with success. Obviously leaving the tank full of gas while over-pressuring it is stupid. Water. Yes, that too creates problems...but it is safe.
Nice job of mount and fab!
I just keep that sucker full every chance to top up. Tried carrying extra gas long ago. The quantity was insufficient and the risk of fire more than I was comfy with...but the op has done a fine job that looks safe and useful!
Nice job of mount and fab!
I just keep that sucker full every chance to top up. Tried carrying extra gas long ago. The quantity was insufficient and the risk of fire more than I was comfy with...but the op has done a fine job that looks safe and useful!
The tank has been Hydro pressure tested to 5 psi. It should hold up.
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From: chico
I agree with post 17, should hold up. However 5 psi hydrotest may be too low...EPA gives Reed Vapor Pressure numbers higher than 5 psi...https://www.epa.gov/gasoline-standar...vapor-pressure
Quote: "EPA established a two-phase reduction in summertime commercial gasoline volatility. These rules reduce gasoline emissions of volatile organic compounds (VOC) that are a major contributor to ground-level ozone (smog). Phase I was applicable to calendar years 1989 through 1991. Depending on the state and month, gasoline RVP was not to exceed 10.5 pounds per square inch (psi), 9.5 psi, or 9.0 psi. Phase II is applicable to 1992 and later calendar years."
Might want to test at something like 10 or 12 psi. And, by the way, EPA confuses psi and psig, though it probably wouldn't matter in this case.
Beautiful job! I'd trust it to-day. Great job of mounting too!
Just saying 5 psi is too low to be sure...gaso can go higher than that...
Best!
Plate
(now I must go do the math about helmets that I've promised - this is gunna hurt my old head! Happily though, some of the hard data is on the 'net - like the elastic limit between c3 and c4 - energy to snap neck, an' all that. Easier than last time I calculated this stuff.)
Quote: "EPA established a two-phase reduction in summertime commercial gasoline volatility. These rules reduce gasoline emissions of volatile organic compounds (VOC) that are a major contributor to ground-level ozone (smog). Phase I was applicable to calendar years 1989 through 1991. Depending on the state and month, gasoline RVP was not to exceed 10.5 pounds per square inch (psi), 9.5 psi, or 9.0 psi. Phase II is applicable to 1992 and later calendar years."
Might want to test at something like 10 or 12 psi. And, by the way, EPA confuses psi and psig, though it probably wouldn't matter in this case.
Beautiful job! I'd trust it to-day. Great job of mounting too!
Just saying 5 psi is too low to be sure...gaso can go higher than that...
Best!
Plate
(now I must go do the math about helmets that I've promised - this is gunna hurt my old head! Happily though, some of the hard data is on the 'net - like the elastic limit between c3 and c4 - energy to snap neck, an' all that. Easier than last time I calculated this stuff.)
Last edited by pie plate; Jun 18, 2016 at 07:34 PM.
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I agree with post 17, should hold up. However 5 psi hydrotest may be too low...EPA gives Reed Vapor Pressure numbers higher than 5 psi...https://www.epa.gov/gasoline-standar...vapor-pressure
Quote: "EPA established a two-phase reduction in summertime commercial gasoline volatility. These rules reduce gasoline emissions of volatile organic compounds (VOC) that are a major contributor to ground-level ozone (smog). Phase I was applicable to calendar years 1989 through 1991. Depending on the state and month, gasoline RVP was not to exceed 10.5 pounds per square inch (psi), 9.5 psi, or 9.0 psi. Phase II is applicable to 1992 and later calendar years."
Might want to test at something like 10 or 12 psi. And, by the way, EPA confuses psi and psig, though it probably wouldn't matter in this case.
Beautiful job! I'd trust it to-day. Great job of mounting too!
Just saying 5 psi is too low to be sure...gaso can go higher than that...
Best!
Plate
(now I must go do the math about helmets that I've promised - this is gunna hurt my old head! Happily though, some of the hard data is on the 'net - like the elastic limit between c3 and c4 - energy to snap neck, an' all that. Easier than last time I calculated this stuff.)
Quote: "EPA established a two-phase reduction in summertime commercial gasoline volatility. These rules reduce gasoline emissions of volatile organic compounds (VOC) that are a major contributor to ground-level ozone (smog). Phase I was applicable to calendar years 1989 through 1991. Depending on the state and month, gasoline RVP was not to exceed 10.5 pounds per square inch (psi), 9.5 psi, or 9.0 psi. Phase II is applicable to 1992 and later calendar years."
Might want to test at something like 10 or 12 psi. And, by the way, EPA confuses psi and psig, though it probably wouldn't matter in this case.
Beautiful job! I'd trust it to-day. Great job of mounting too!
Just saying 5 psi is too low to be sure...gaso can go higher than that...
Best!
Plate
(now I must go do the math about helmets that I've promised - this is gunna hurt my old head! Happily though, some of the hard data is on the 'net - like the elastic limit between c3 and c4 - energy to snap neck, an' all that. Easier than last time I calculated this stuff.)