Using High Beam
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 8,001
Likes: 6,901
From: NC
Sorry dude but you are soo wrong.
First of all tell me ONE SINGLE TIME that you know of that a pissed off driver ran over a biker because of bright lights.
Second, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that the brighter the light the more likely you are to get noticed, then you have no idea how the human brain works.
First of all tell me ONE SINGLE TIME that you know of that a pissed off driver ran over a biker because of bright lights.
Second, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that the brighter the light the more likely you are to get noticed, then you have no idea how the human brain works.
MSF recommended using high beams before halogens were common on motorcycles. and now LED are brighter. If MSF is continuing to promote high beams, they are doing so contrary to their own data.
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 204
Likes: 36
From: ft worth, tx
"Officer, I saw the motorcycle, but the light blinded me so I looked away, then I pulled out in front of it because I couldn't tell how fast it was going"
"Officer, I'm sorry I ran into your squad car, your bright headlights, and red and blue lights were so bright, I could not tell how fast you were going"
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.
I am very interested to learn about all the instances where a motorcyclist was actually involved in an accident because his headlight was too bright. I can assure you there are a gazzillion instances where the driver that pulled out in front of a motorcyclist said they did not see it. I'll take my chances.
There is "data" to support any side of any argument there is. I will rely on common sense, the brighter my light, the less likely someone is going to either not see me, or think my little dim light is just a non threat.
As far as someone running over you because they were pissed about the bright light, BS. You are more likely to get ran over by a cage because they hate bikers for some reason. Not many murderers out there looking to kill someone for having brights on in the sunlight.
"Officer, I'm sorry I ran into your squad car, your bright headlights, and red and blue lights were so bright, I could not tell how fast you were going"
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me.
I am very interested to learn about all the instances where a motorcyclist was actually involved in an accident because his headlight was too bright. I can assure you there are a gazzillion instances where the driver that pulled out in front of a motorcyclist said they did not see it. I'll take my chances.
There is "data" to support any side of any argument there is. I will rely on common sense, the brighter my light, the less likely someone is going to either not see me, or think my little dim light is just a non threat.
As far as someone running over you because they were pissed about the bright light, BS. You are more likely to get ran over by a cage because they hate bikers for some reason. Not many murderers out there looking to kill someone for having brights on in the sunlight.
Last edited by 7roper7; Jul 10, 2016 at 03:02 PM.
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 476
Likes: 133
From: BlueGrass
Sorry dude but you are soo wrong.
First of all tell me ONE SINGLE TIME that you know of that a pissed off driver ran over a biker because of bright lights.
Second, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that the brighter the light the more likely you are to get noticed, then you have no idea how the human brain works.
First of all tell me ONE SINGLE TIME that you know of that a pissed off driver ran over a biker because of bright lights.
Second, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that the brighter the light the more likely you are to get noticed, then you have no idea how the human brain works.
I just brought up example of how human brain failed to see a million pound, loud as frig, bight as hell locomotive....and you want to tell me about a human brain????
And I'm talking about attitude that will get you run over not a HB. Reading comprehension dude...
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 204
Likes: 36
From: ft worth, tx
OH I comprehend perfectly. You use an EXTREME example of someone crossing a train track and not seeing a train and then use conjecture that it was due to the bright light? There are always going to be things like that happen that make you scratch your head and wonder.
I ask again, can you show an example of motorcycle accidents that point to the light being too bright? I promise you there are many many documented cases of those that said they did not see the motorcycle.
I ask again, can you show an example of motorcycle accidents that point to the light being too bright? I promise you there are many many documented cases of those that said they did not see the motorcycle.
Road Warrior
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 22
From: Denham Springs, La
I ride with my passing lights and hi beam during daylight hours. I do the weave if there's a car getting ready to pull out, especially from my right side.
I haven't blinded any enough to cross over into my lane like a moth attracted to a flame.
I haven't blinded any enough to cross over into my lane like a moth attracted to a flame.
Banned
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,406
Likes: 834
From: Straight Jacket Memories and Sedative Highs
Recently a friend on a purple dresser with hi vis shirt was hit. Woman didn't see her.
Maybe it just make you people feel better. Dangerous part is it is knocking you off your game. Lulling you.
Maybe it just makes it easier riding bikes, when you got a wife and kids at home. Dunno
Maybe it just make you people feel better. Dangerous part is it is knocking you off your game. Lulling you.
Maybe it just makes it easier riding bikes, when you got a wife and kids at home. Dunno
Road Master
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 791
Likes: 221
From: sf bay area ca
better read it again mr blue grass didn't say any thing about making u safer now did i
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Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 204
Likes: 36
From: ft worth, tx
We all have to stay alert and we all know people are more likely to not pay attention, not see, or dismiss a motorcyclist than another car. Arguing about our preferences (I'm guilty, I enjoy the banter) is good. Someone may start thinking differently one way or another, and that consciousness may save their life.
Ride safe Brothers and Sisters.
Keep your eyes on high beam.
Ride safe Brothers and Sisters.
Keep your eyes on high beam.
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 8,251
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From: Windwardside, Saba N.A.
Don't care what you think. Don't care if cars do it or not. On a motor I'm above their lights' cutoff point. All I care about it they see ME whether it bothers their pansy asses or not.