Need a little help
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Need a little help
I won't get in to the whys of what I did, because I really don't know. Just looking things over and wanted to see how it worked, is the best I can come up with at the moment. (I've successfully adjusted the clutch many times.)
That said, I was changing fluids and I screwed the clutch adjustment screw in way further than what you would when doing an adjustment. I backed it back out and adjusted it normally and completed the procedure. When I went to pull in the clutch lever, I could not pull it back to the bar. I applied a little pressure (the get a bigger hammer syndrome) and heard a sound that at first I thought might be one of the ball bearings falling out where the clutch cable attaches, under the tranny cover. I would describe it as a "tink" sound, small metal part on metal sound. But with the trans full of fluid, I don't think that's possible.
So what did I do? And, how do I fix it? I started to pull the tranny cover off and take a look, but thought I'd post here and see what I could learn before I started.
I did this a few weeks ago and just walked away and I'm just now getting back to it.....(big trip coming up and I gotta get it fixed.)
That said, I was changing fluids and I screwed the clutch adjustment screw in way further than what you would when doing an adjustment. I backed it back out and adjusted it normally and completed the procedure. When I went to pull in the clutch lever, I could not pull it back to the bar. I applied a little pressure (the get a bigger hammer syndrome) and heard a sound that at first I thought might be one of the ball bearings falling out where the clutch cable attaches, under the tranny cover. I would describe it as a "tink" sound, small metal part on metal sound. But with the trans full of fluid, I don't think that's possible.
So what did I do? And, how do I fix it? I started to pull the tranny cover off and take a look, but thought I'd post here and see what I could learn before I started.
I did this a few weeks ago and just walked away and I'm just now getting back to it.....(big trip coming up and I gotta get it fixed.)
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you can try to loosen up the cable and work the lever and see if the ***** are set in the ramp...otherwise
open up the trap door and make sure the ***** are set in the ramp.
if you put your tires up on a 2x4, lean it on the jiffy...your tranny fluid will stay in the case- except for a couple of table spoons.
if your header is in the way of your bolts cut off a piece of 1/4 allen key or use a screwdriver bit buttend and turn with a wrench
mike
open up the trap door and make sure the ***** are set in the ramp.
if you put your tires up on a 2x4, lean it on the jiffy...your tranny fluid will stay in the case- except for a couple of table spoons.
if your header is in the way of your bolts cut off a piece of 1/4 allen key or use a screwdriver bit buttend and turn with a wrench
mike
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What compresses when you screw the clutch adjustment screw in several rounds past the contact point? I'm trying to figure out what I compressed. I've looked at my manual but don't see what I'm wanting to know.
What happens if you back that adjustment screw all the way out?
What happens if you back that adjustment screw all the way out?
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I'm with Mike.
I would go back in to the clutch inspection cover and take all the tension off the adjuster screw. Then remove the clutch release cover and see if the ***** are still in place.
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....0SIDE%20COVERS
I would go back in to the clutch inspection cover and take all the tension off the adjuster screw. Then remove the clutch release cover and see if the ***** are still in place.
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....0SIDE%20COVERS
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I think you may be right. Everything looks good as far as the clutch, ***** and ramp are concerned. I don't see how what I did could have effected them, but I do see how I might have crushed the throwout bearing. Although if I did, it didn't take much pressure at all! Now I have to figure out how to replace it. Doesn't look too hard at first glance.
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That little button bearing looks fine. I think I over-compressed the clutch spring in the pressure plate. I'll know tomorrow. Primary coming off. I've got a smaller front pulley I need to install anyway. I have a big trip coming up and don't want any trouble on the road so I'm just going to pull the clutch assembly and check everything out. Hope the dealer has the parts. It sucks I don't have time to shop for discounts, but oh well. (go to link below and click on clutch assembly for part I.D. if interested)
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....0SIDE%20COVERS
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....0SIDE%20COVERS
Last edited by mike5511; Jul 13, 2016 at 02:03 AM.
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Well I learned a little so the time wasn't a total waste. mkguitar, seconded by Vernal were correct. I did look at the ball and ramp device initially, but not close enough! I had only been in there once before when I changed bars and installed a longer clutch cable. After giving it more thought, I checked the ***** and ramp and found the problem. Easy fix and the primary didn't need to come off. But on the upside, the clutch assembly all looked good, no wear evident on the tensioner either. Moral of the story: Lessons learned the hard way will stick with you! Or maybe; don't do dumb stuff unless you know what the consequences will be. (I admit all this only on the off chance it might help somebody else one day.)
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Absolutely nothing wrong with admitting and learning from mistakes. I do it all the time and if I'm wrong or "stupid" will be the first to admit it and hopefully learn something from the experience. It's called being human right? Good to hear it turned out well for you!
