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My understanding is that the 107 and 114 have the same Delphi ECU as the bikes since the start of Rushmore. Is that incorrect? I believe the new injectors are Bosch but the ECU remains consistent with all the technology in the hand of tuners today.
In my typing flurry I neglected to mention Delphi also.
Scott
The ECM in the 2017 Touring Milwaukee Eight is indeed a Delphi unit; albeit new. We are already able to read/write to it and are currently sorting thru the definitions and other data. The OEM calibrations are significantly different than 16-earlier models. We are working on Power Vision functionality with a full effort, we expect to be fully flashing ECM's in the next several days and will go straight into calibration development. There is a ton of work to do, as the calibrations and components are completely different but we will have products to market quickly. We'll post initial dyno info and data in the next day or so and as we continue to work forward.
I'd like to see a dyne chart of the stock 107 & 114. Does anyone know of one published yet?
Here's the MoCo's "Corrected for rear wheel" dyno charts from the P&A catalog for both the 107 and the 114. Stock engines are dead after 4000 rpms. Probably due to the cam designed to meet emission standards. But the base engine should be a terrific platform to make real hp with cam, larger TB, larger injectors, 2:1 exhaust and tuning upgrades. I can see the aftermarket suppliers getting these 4 valve heads to produce in excess of 130hp/130ft-lbs without breaking a sweat.
107 to 114 upgrade kit dyno
114 to 117 upgrade kit dyno
Last edited by Heatwave; Aug 25, 2016 at 01:44 PM.
New engine has less components, more cost efficient to manufacture/source.
Again, not a giant leap from the current T/C at all.
This is nothing more than another page, as I have been working on these, since prior to the Evo days, remembering well all the advertisements in the cycle magazines, when the Evo was first brought to market.
Hope the current, hoop-la is better thought out, than when HD was touting as how robust the T/C cranks were supposed to be.............
Scott
..... i look at those comparison HP/TQ charts above, and it appears the 104-114 kit makes more HP than the 114-117 does
......... that doesn't say much for that 117 kit
114 cubic inches and can't bust a 100 horsepower at the rear wheel. Pitiful.
Originally Posted by Heatwave
Here's the MoCo's "Corrected for rear wheel" dyno charts from the P&A catalog for both the 107 and the 114. Stock engines are dead after 4000 rpms. Probably due to the cam designed to meet emission standards. But the base engine should be a terrific platform to make real hp with cam, larger TB, larger injectors, 2:1 exhaust and tuning upgrades. I can see the aftermarket suppliers getting these 4 valve heads to produce in excess of 130hp/130ft-lbs without breaking a sweat.
107 to 114 upgrade kit dyno
114 to 117 upgrade kit dyno
Last edited by Campy Roadie; Aug 25, 2016 at 06:11 PM.
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