Pre-Rushmore Values
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Pre-Rushmore Values
My local dealer is REALLY blowing out pre-rushmore Ultra Classics and Ultra Limiteds. Not so much Street Glides. Do you believe this is just year end clearance sales, or is the pre-rushmore values really damaged like pre-2009 touring bikes? I have mixed emotions on this subject and I am REALLY considering buying one of these bikes today. Just wondering what other people's opinion is on the subject.
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There's nothing wrong with the pre-rushmore bikes. Find a great deal and enjoy it. Of course the values are dropping as the newer models come out.. use that to your advantage.. Have the salesman tell you how the new M8 engine is the best thing ever, and the Rushmore frame is so much better.. then walk over to a 2013 and tell him since they are such crap you need a better price. 
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IF you are planning on keeping the bike- then the sale price and value is a benefit to you.
IF part of your internal calculation is based on a "someday I'll sell it and get X back"- that is flawed logic- as the house of cards could fall with an accident or theft, or no willing buyers to meet your "value" at sale time
Because a motorcycle is not an investment.
your BEST value will be a cash private sale of the bike with the features you want.
in a State like AZ, there is no sales tax on a private party used sale- so almost a 10% saving right there.
if you NEED financing, you need to look at your whole financial picture
not raining on your parade, just trying to shed some light- your reality may not be same as mine...I only pay cash for bikes, that requires saving up and searching out the right one.
My 09 is great- the frame, drivetrain, abs and efi are perfect. newer models are better, but only slightly so.
the 17 is a changer for values of previous models- but twice the cost of an 09/10
he probably means the rushmore fairing- the mail slot, which comes with canbus electrics, forks and a new stereo...frame is the same as the 09
Article describing how used car retained values have declined and anticipated continued decline into the next few years:
http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...t=oft12aH-1li3
mike
IF part of your internal calculation is based on a "someday I'll sell it and get X back"- that is flawed logic- as the house of cards could fall with an accident or theft, or no willing buyers to meet your "value" at sale time
Because a motorcycle is not an investment.
your BEST value will be a cash private sale of the bike with the features you want.
in a State like AZ, there is no sales tax on a private party used sale- so almost a 10% saving right there.
if you NEED financing, you need to look at your whole financial picture
not raining on your parade, just trying to shed some light- your reality may not be same as mine...I only pay cash for bikes, that requires saving up and searching out the right one.
My 09 is great- the frame, drivetrain, abs and efi are perfect. newer models are better, but only slightly so.
the 17 is a changer for values of previous models- but twice the cost of an 09/10
he probably means the rushmore fairing- the mail slot, which comes with canbus electrics, forks and a new stereo...frame is the same as the 09
Article describing how used car retained values have declined and anticipated continued decline into the next few years:
http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...t=oft12aH-1li3
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Dec 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM.
I am not sure if any dealer wants to have anything older than 2007 in their inventory,
and would prefer 2009 and later models. The 2017 M-8 is what the motor company is
building and selling now, and for some years to come. The 2014 to 2016 Rushmores is
still a popular Touring Motorcycle, and will remain so for sometime. DYNA & SOFTAIL
Bikes with the High Output 103 engines will keep their value for sometime, along with
all the S-Bikes. Just My Opinion, as I see it, buy now and ride now be Happy.
and would prefer 2009 and later models. The 2017 M-8 is what the motor company is
building and selling now, and for some years to come. The 2014 to 2016 Rushmores is
still a popular Touring Motorcycle, and will remain so for sometime. DYNA & SOFTAIL
Bikes with the High Output 103 engines will keep their value for sometime, along with
all the S-Bikes. Just My Opinion, as I see it, buy now and ride now be Happy.
Last edited by OldPhat; Dec 27, 2016 at 11:53 AM.
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I am considering a trade back to a touring bike so I've been looking at local dealers inventory. Both local dealers, owned by the same guy have a ton of 2016 touring bikes in the showroom. I would need a really big discount to not by a 17 with the new engine. That's just me though. In fact, if I wanted a twin cam I would probably look foe a clean low mileage 2014 Rushmore , and save even more. Are a lot of guys still buying the 16's ?
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some guys are reduced in choice by their lender if they cannot self-finance a bike.
in that he lender doesn;t want to be stuck with a 14, 12, 10 etc no matter how good the deal looked if the buyer has a financial snag.
so the availability of loans can devalue further- on the market- older bikes
financing through a dealer is always going to steer a buyer towards the biggest highest expense possible...the finance and sale guy work together all day, every day to get the best reward for the dealership.
economics.
unless the buyer has cash, part of their decisions will be made for them
mike
in that he lender doesn;t want to be stuck with a 14, 12, 10 etc no matter how good the deal looked if the buyer has a financial snag.
so the availability of loans can devalue further- on the market- older bikes
financing through a dealer is always going to steer a buyer towards the biggest highest expense possible...the finance and sale guy work together all day, every day to get the best reward for the dealership.
economics.
unless the buyer has cash, part of their decisions will be made for them
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Dec 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM.
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I'm assuming what you speak of are used bikes? I know some dealers that have a few new 16's and maybe one 15 for tourers left, but if a dealer has new pre-rushmore's on hand, they're doing something wrong. We're talking 4 yr old bikes.
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