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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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I suddenly have no charging on my 04 Ultra. Checked voltage at the battery, only had battery voltage, no increase when running up to 2,500 rpm. Check the stator, had 17 volts at idle. Replaced the regulator and no change. Opened up the primary "assuming" it must be the stator. When I pulled the rotor off, most of the magnets are loose and will slid around inside the rotor. They were also stacked side by side, no space between most of them. Could the problem be the rotor and not the stator? Is there a way to test the stator off the bike? Any suggestions appreciated.
 
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If you have the FSM I believe it has a troubleshooting section on the stator where you can check each winding for continuity, resistance and shorts. Sorry, can't be more help than that.
 
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I have the FSN but, don't see anything about testing the stator off the bike.
 
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If the magnets are loose and sliding, it's toast.
 
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Originally Posted by 1plumr1
If the magnets are loose and sliding, it's toast.
Yea, I figured the rotor is shot. Just wondering about the stator. I checked what I knew to do with limited knowledge. I have continuity between the two wires but, there is no resistance. I used the ohm meter and it comes up 0. Is there not supposed to be resistance?

CORRECTION: I do have .1ohms resistance between the two wires.
 

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when the magnets come off they hit the stator.

the magnets are glued to the rotor.

using an air impact tool on the comp is the fastest way to knock them off


when you get your new rotor you will see the marking warning against sharp blows/impacts.

that is why


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If you do any trips and are in that deep there is no way I don't replace the stator unless it is fairly new. Cost me $500.00 to have HD Dealer replace mine in Salt Lake City last year. Especialy sucked because I had planed to replace it this winter while doing a swingarm upgrade.
 
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Possible simple solution: Check the fuse between the charging system and the battery. It blows on our older police bikes and gets replaced often. Guess I was wrong about the voltage output.

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The Electrical Diagnostic manual states "Resistance should be less then 0.5 ohm and stator output should be 16-20 VAC per 1000 rpm."

Check both stator wires to one of the mounting bolt holes on the stator to make sure it's not shorted, should show open circuit. If the primary smells like a burnt circuit board the stator will need to be replaced.

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....t/view?id=8264

Give Cycle Electric a call they make good aftermarket parts:

http://cycleelectricinc.com/
 
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
when the magnets come off they hit the stator.

the magnets are glued to the rotor.

using an air impact tool on the comp is the fastest way to knock them off


when you get your new rotor you will see the marking warning against sharp blows/impacts.

that is why


Mike

Sharp blows/impacts can demagnetize the rotor making it useless. Same goes for dropping it or allowing it to slam into the casing.
 
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