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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 09:52 PM
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Decided to change my trans and primary fluids today. Beautiful 80 degree day for a little 25 mile ride down to J&P at Destination Daytona, wont be so nice in about 9 days when the masses will arrive for Bike Week.

Took the drain plugs out of the trans and primary, and when I went to take the derby cover off one of the damn torx bolts stripped out. First tried hammering the next size up torx wrench into it, but that didn't work. Got the drill and easy outs, and ended up breaking the easy out off in the bolt.

Taped up the derby cover around the bolt and got the dremel out and cut a slot in the bolt, and channel locked a big *** screw driver. Turned right out.

Last time the cover was off was when the dealership replaced my comp.

Going out tomorrow and buying some stainless 1/4-20 allen head bolts. Sure as hell aint gonna use torx again.

Rant over...carry on.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 09:55 PM
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Hate the damn things myself. They require patience, finesse, and the right size driver. Several of the sizes are very close to each other.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 10:09 PM
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T27

not T25

anytime you have a bit that is not grabbing, apply a little grit- toothpaste will do.

You don;t have to use torx, on my evo I swapped to all allens so i had fewer tools to carry.

stainless bolts are more brittle than steel..careful.

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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
T27
not T25
anytime you have a bit that is not grabbing, apply a little grit- toothpaste will do.
You don;t have to use torx, on my evo I swapped to all allens so i had fewer tools to carry.
Mike
I learned this also. T25 looks, feels like it fits, but it strips. I have my T27 marked so I will never make that mistake again.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 10:17 PM
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I had the right size torx, those were the softest bolts I've ever seen. I had a nice slot cut in it in a few seconds.

Allen's will for sure be replacing them. 1/4-20 x 5/8" long shouldn't be an odd size. I've got a box full of stainless ones, but there only 1/2" long. They get a good bite, but I'll find some 5/8 ones.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 11:19 PM
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Allens can round out too, sometimes even easier especially on the small bolts. Important thing is having high quality Allen bits that fit snugly in the head. If it is loose then you stand a good chance of rounding it out, then all you have is a bolt with a nice round hole. I went to Snap On exclusively for the US sizes and have no problems.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2017 | 11:46 PM
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That happens when using a T25 instead of the correct T-27 on the derby cover.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 05:26 AM
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If you broke an ez-out too, sounds like red loctite or such was poured heavily on the threads.
 
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I have this same exact problem right now. Waiting for a nice day to break out the EZ out. I thought about switching to allen heads too. Probably will
 
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Old Mar 2, 2017 | 05:49 AM
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I have no issues with mine..after 10 years... the stock derby and inspection cover are all the same as the bike was new.
 
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