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i have a friend who dates a gal that is part owner of a harley dealership close by. we have become close friends with one of the mechanics there. he can tell you some stories of the many things that happen to these bikes and what to watch out for. they are not playing cards in back of the shop , they are working on bikes. what's good about this is we do get some inside information out of them about problems they are seeing on the bikes.
Do share, PM me if you don't want to deal with the usual suspects crap.
Whether those problems are real or imagined, you answered your own question
Originally Posted by hardheaded
i wouldn't ride anything else,
They don't have to, the brand loyalists will buy them even with the problems
and for every guy that goes to another brand, there's a guy stepping into a harley for the first time
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he's clued us in on things like the top engine mount coming loose or shearing the bolts off and the oil filter adapter leaking at several differant places. what i like that he would share with us was things that changed between the years and even some mid-year running changes. he can tell you what they are seeing fail early. alot of people will bring their bikes to the dealership and request him, even if they have to wait for him to work on their bike. most people wouldn't even pay attention to most of it, but i'm a gearhead and love this kind of stuff. we have gotten to know him and hang out outside the dealership. he's a good guy and will talk to you about any problems you are having. i have another friend who is a GM mechanic and i get the same kind of information from him, plus my son is a parts man at the same dealership. can't tell you how many times this has come in handy while working on the bike or the hotrods. i like getting clued in early on future problems. plus both of these guys like to drink beer !
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The bike had minor damage to the engine guard, a bent left side floorboard and some scrape on the left side of the gas tank and left rear fender. I figured even with CVO paint and the repair of minor damages to the left side, it would have been no more than $8K. BOTH of these shops listed so many bogus things that virtually everything that could be listed, WAS. This resulted in an estimate so high that both shops totaled my bike. I had already been making payments on it for a year, which came to over $4K. This turned out to be a loss, because if I wanted to keep the bike I would have had only a salvage title with two more years of payments to make. I also had an extended warranty in which I had to jump through so many hoops to get paid for the unused portion of it, that it took about 6 months to receive it. So, I opted to collect the difference between the payoff and the appraised value, and I was done. This was a really dirty deal in which I believe the MoCo instructs their dealers to do so they will sell more bikes.
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Yeah, you may have something there. I don't know if its moco or what but I was looking for a used HD a while back and it really is amazing to me how many bikes are out there, totaled, with salvage titles, and seemingly very little damage. Bent front fender, dented tank and scraped fairing and bags equals totalled?
I prefer HD Evos, have owned and ridden more than one along with metrics over the last 40 years. All makes of bikes can have issues, staying on top of maintenance helps prevent a lot of them but some just happen for various reasons including the factory sourcing cheap parts, made of crappy materials to save a buck, that just don't last. Plastic cam chain tensioners anyone?
I say ride what you want, or don't. Free country.
I own a VN2000 and a 2011 Ultra Limited. I follow all forums on Metrics and Harley's. HD is the biggest fish in the pond and gets the most attention. When I am on the Metric sites. For the most part they are quick to point out the issues with Harley's. Then if you look at the threads just like any brand of bike you find all the problems,challenges and issues with those bikes. Morel of the story is. All makes and models have unfixed problems always will. It is places like this that find fixes that the bike makers won't. As well as third party manufactures. I also have rarely if at all seen many of the challenges plagued by so many owners. Just lucky I guess.
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